# About the Chaos Dwarf Discussion category
**URL:** https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/about-the-chaos-dwarf-discussion-category/14
**Category:** Chaos Dwarf Discussion
**Created:** [8 February 2020 19:29 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/about-the-chaos-dwarf-discussion-category/14 "2020-02-08T19:29:54Z")
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### Author:  [@Xander](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [8 February 2020 19:29 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/about-the-chaos-dwarf-discussion-category/14/1 "2020-02-08T19:29:55Z")
Discuss anything related to Chaos Dwarfs, Helsmiths of Hashut, Abyssal Dwarves, Infernal Dwarves and other evil dwarfs. All systems welcome.
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### Author:  [@Moonandlake](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Moonandlake)
#### Post date: [1 May 2021 19:49 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/about-the-chaos-dwarf-discussion-category/14/2 "2021-05-01T19:49:04Z")
Recently I have wondered about the fantasy archetype “the evil dwarf”. Where does it come from? We see them both in Warhammer, Warcraft, D&D, and a bunch of other places.
I wonder if anyone ever did a piece of writing about the history of this type of fantasy creature, like I know some have done with orcs.
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### Author:  [@Unsullied](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Unsullied)
#### Post date: [24 August 2024 19:39 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/about-the-chaos-dwarf-discussion-category/14/3 "2024-08-24T19:39:55Z")
Hi i dont know for sure, but id suspect like many things fantasy it comes from Tolkien…
In his middle earth stories the dwarves came from the east, there were seven houses originally, and four stayed behind.
Whilst he doesnt specify the outcomes of these houses, its very likely they fell to Sauron and became evil dwarves.
I suspect many readers came to the same conclusion and thus the idea of evil dwarves was considered.