# \[Archive\] 2nd stab at CD's (2000 points)
**URL:** https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685
**Category:** \[Archive\] Army Lists
**Created:** [7 March 2007 05:56 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685 "2007-03-07T05:56:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [7 March 2007 05:56 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/1 "2007-03-07T05:56:47Z")
**Spawn** :
1 Chaos Dwarf Lord @ 223 Pts
���� General; Shield
���� Obsidian Blade- Ignore Armour, an unsaved wound destroys all armour and weapons
���� Armour of Gazrakh- 1+ armour save
1 \* Bull Centaur Hero @ 145 Pts
���� Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield
���� Gauntlets of Bazhrakk the Cruel- +1 st any hit that is a 1 is resolved against frenidly model in BtB contact
���� Talisman of Protection- 6+ ward
1 Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer @ 150 Pts
���� Magic Level 2; Lore of Fire
���� Dispel Scroll, Dispel Scroll
20 Chaos Dwarf Warriors @ 210 Pts
���� Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician, Champion
20 \* Chaos Dwarf Warriors @ 250 Pts
���� Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician, Champion
20 Chaos Dwarf Blunderbuss @ 240 Pts
���� Blunderbuss; Heavy Armour
10 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders @ 160 Pts
���� Normal Bow; Light Armour; Shield
20 Hobgoblins @ 40 Pts
20 Hobgoblins @ 40 Pts
21 Hobgoblins @ 42 Pts
21 Hobgoblins @ 42 Pts
20 Orc Boyz @ 148 Pts
���� Choppa; Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician, Boss
1 Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower @ 30 Pts
1 Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower @ 30 Pts
1 Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower @ 30 Pts
1 Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower @ 30 Pts
1 Death Rocket @ 80 Pts
1 Earthshaker @ 110 Pts
Spawn
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [7 March 2007 09:07 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/2 "2007-03-07T09:07:21Z")
**ross\_lionheart** :
Using a sorcerer lord and another level 2 sorcerers might be more effective than your current character list…Your Lord on foot will be avoided by most opponents…
With so many hobgoblins and Orcs in your army, Id seriously consider using the banner of slavery.
I’d upgrade the CD warrior units to 25.To do this you could simply use HW and shield combo instead of great weapons.
Blunderbusses work better in unit sizes of 15 to 18…id drop 2 so your warrior units can increase to 25 each.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [7 March 2007 09:58 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/3 "2007-03-07T09:58:06Z")
**Spawn** :
well most of the reason that my list is the current is becuase of model constraints. Although im willing to try anything…
Spawn
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [8 March 2007 06:21 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/4 "2007-03-08T06:21:14Z")
**qwe50** :
I too will say
Get a
4. level Sorcerer lord and a
BSB with armour of Armour of Gazrakh and sword of might
that way all u units will stay in CC (Ld 10 and BSB)
i don’t like the Gauntlets of Bazhrakk the Cruel (i usely roll 2 1’s and lose the combat) I would take a bull hero with the black hammer (it’s magic and good against TK and WE)
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [8 March 2007 09:27 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/5 "2007-03-08T09:27:04Z")
**Spawn** :
but i dont play WEs or TK. So i take the Gaunltets :wink:
Spawn
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [9 March 2007 12:18 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/6 "2007-03-09T12:18:36Z")
**metro\_gnome** :
well you will still be dissapointed in them when you are standing in a pile of your own dead guyz…
im gonna echo what has been said about sorceror lord… the lord you have chosen will not see much action…
but more importantly is drop the obsidian blade… that thing is never worth itz pointz…
whats the good of destroying his armor if you ignore it anyway?
bows on the wolfboyz is also a bad choice…
any turn they spend shooting is a turn they dont spend in CC, march blocking, flanking, eating war machine crew…
get a musician in this unit… but otherwise save the point for something useful…
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### Author:  [@Xander](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [9 March 2007 12:27 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/7 "2007-03-09T12:27:01Z")
**Xander** :
> well you will still be dissapointed in them when you are standing in a pile of your own dead guyz...
>
> **metro\_gnome**
Not when using a Bull Centaur Hero. :P No friendlies in Base Contact. :)
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [9 March 2007 12:32 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/8 "2007-03-09T12:32:55Z")
**metro\_gnome** :
i dont know where it says that…
but this character is very poorly armored to be running solo if thats what your are getting at…
perhaps you have hit upon the major problem with the list…
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### Author:  [@Xander](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [9 March 2007 12:39 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/9 "2007-03-09T12:39:37Z")
**Xander** :
> i dont know where it says that...
> but this character is very poorly armored to be running solo if thats what your are getting at...
> perhaps you have hit upon the major problem with the list...
>
> **metro\_gnome**
He is going solo.
> If the wearer rolls a 1 to hit, this blows strikes a random
> _friendly model in base contact_ instead. This could be his
> mount. **20pts**
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> **Gauntlets of Nazharakk the Cruel (enchanted item): +1S**
Italics mine.
I assume that's why he is using the Gauntlets, hehe, if he is leading the Woflies, then yes, we have a problem. :P
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [9 March 2007 12:42 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/10 "2007-03-09T12:42:46Z")
**metro\_gnome** :
well again i dont see where it says that the character is off alone… perhaps itz part of beavers edit…
he’ll get mauled by shooting if he does tho…
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [21 May 2007 04:05 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/11 "2007-05-21T04:05:24Z")
**hobblin** :
Metro\_gnome the point of destroying his armor is pretty stupid because you ignore it but you also destroy there wepons evan if its a magic weapon.
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### Author:  [@hal](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/hal)
#### Post date: [21 May 2007 04:45 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/12 "2007-05-21T04:45:47Z")
**hal** :
I think that the Obsidian blade is a total waste of points, especially on a Dwarf Lord. With the points you save you could boost your CD units to 25 or your orc unit.
@hobblin: relax a little, if you have a point to make well please explain but don’t insult others.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [22 May 2007 06:19 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/13 "2007-05-22T06:19:39Z")
**metro\_gnome** :
i wouldn’t worry about it…
i was the one who said destroying magic armor (when you ignore it) was stupid…
but no hobblin… the obsidian blade does **not** affect weapons… it destroys armor only…
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [23 May 2007 08:55 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-2nd-stab-at-cds-2000-points/5685/14 "2007-05-23T08:55:59Z")
**hobblin** :
Ahhh fiddle sticks.☹