cornixt:
Who did all the counting to come up with 50+?
Is this the final nail in the coffin for Hand of Hashut?
Gar Shadowfame:
No matter what country domain is used GW can still get things shut down by finding out info from the hosts.There is no "internet" law, so if server is not in jurisdiction, then one cant do anything. Thats why no agency/company can shut anything down, like noone can ban @mule project, well they can but cant shut it down, legaly.
Kera foehunter:
I see Gw don’t spend time on making new figures !!
just like all fat cat there scaird some one will take something of thers
and ready to beat up on the small guys !!
This_Is_My_Boomstick!!:
As an add on to the C&D orders GW has done this to a game they hardly support with miniatures and occationally updates the LRB
Taken from TGN
Games Workshop threaten release of new Blood Bowl rules
According to a thread on the TalkFantasyFootball forum, Games Workshop have threatened to halt the release of the sixth edition of the Blood Bowl Living Rulebook if competing figure manufacturers advertise miniatures to be used as Blood Bowl Star Players.
From their website:
Games Workshop is concerned about the number of fantasy football miniature companies now showing up in the world. GW has also noted that several of the Star Players do not have official figures. They have agreed to allow them in at this time �?� however over the coming weeks (perhaps months) they do not want to see discussions (or worse released figures) from other miniatures companies about creating figures to fill in for missing star players. Miniatures released by any company should not be marketed online as being a great figure for such and such BB Star Players.
It was made very clear today that if GW sees such marketing happening �?� they will pull the LRB 6.0 (or modify it before it is officially posted) and remove all star players from the document that do not have an official BB figure effectively deleting the rules for that player from the game (and since LRB 6.0 will be the offical rules for many years to come �?� this will be a serious deletion). So not only would this erase all the LRB 6.0 stars added to balance out the game and team�?Ts inducements. But many LRB 5.0 stars (Ramtut, Zara, Hemlock, Helmet, Ugroth, Spleenripper, etc. etc) would be deleted from the rulebook as well.
Baggronor:
But many LRB 5.0 stars (Ramtut, Zara, Hemlock, Helmet, Ugroth, Spleenripper, etc. etc) would be deleted from the rulebook as well.So they're prepared to quash parts of their own rules, thereby downgrading the quality of their own product, and infuriate the fans who kept Bloodbowl alive? Yeah, sounds like GW to me. Pathetic. Why don't they try and lead the market by making the best miniatures for their own game that they can't be bothered to support properly instead, or would that be too much like effort?
Games Workshop is concerned about the number of fantasy football miniature companies now showing up in the world.Next year it'll be "Games Workshop is concerned about the number of fantasy miniature companies now showing up in the world"...
snowblizz:
Games Workshop is concerned about the number of fantasy football miniature companies now showing up in the world.Well there's an easy fix to that, make the friggin miniatures, you ARE a miniatures company.
Like they have a global monopoly on fantasy football miniatures...? If that was their only criticism I'd like to see them argue that one in court! ;)
Grimstonefire
It [would be] like [would be] claiming there [was] an alarming increase of mobile phones similar to the Iphone and demand any touchscreen phone not being sold.
*Apple was used as an example of a company with a specific but not necessarily unique product where it is obvious they are not THE ONLY producer
Willmark:
Snowblizz- I work for Apple and they have done nothing of the sort. Lots of speculation by people who have axes to grind about us. The amount of disinformation over what consitutes look and feel and actual law are two totally, seperate things.
To all- I agree GW you have an issue over people filling a void that you created in the first place.
snowblizz:
Snowblizz- I work for Apple and they have done nothing of the sort. Lots of speculation by people who have axes to grind about us. The amount of disinformation over what consitutes look and feel and actual law are two totally, seperate things.Women (long story) and Apple sales people (just kidding)* are a bit touchy today it seems. See edit of post above.
To all- I agree GW you have an issue over people filling a void that you created in the first place.
Willmark
Though Apple IS being sued for patent infringement by other mobile device manufacturer(s). So Hah! on you. ;P
*not implying Apple sales people ARE women mind, though sometimes I suspect...
slev:
Most of what they are doing here is tied into copyright & trademark law.
Effectively, you can’t use the IP of GW in the NAMING or URL of your site, but the rest is fine, so long as you’re not attempting to look/sound official.
Willmark:
Snowblizz-Yep I knew you would bring that up.
1- Nokia might not have a leg to stand on regarding the lawsuit. Claims do not equal guilt.
2- Many are speculating that Nokia is doing so as a pre-emptive strike because their next line of phones are reportedly heavily Apple influnced.
Bottom line for any company: don’t confuse lawsuit with anything other the sledgehammers that companies use to “win” a more favorable business position. I can’t say anything more other then just because you can sue over X does not mean you are guilty of X.
snowblizz:
Snowblizz-Yep I knew you would bring that up.How it was explained to me was that its a question of cross-patenting which the other manufacturers do and Apple does not. And considering the amount of patents in that sector I find it likely Apple is using someone else's ideas, there's no way anyone can convince me that Apple is using 100% "pure" ideas. I think someone said "without the mobile phone technology invented by others it would just be an Ipod". The idea was that Nokia was in part "taking one for the team" releasing Apple patents for the industry to use.
1- Nokia might not have a leg to stand on regarding the lawsuit. Claims do not equal guilt.
2- Many are speculating that Nokia is doing so as a pre-emptive strike because their next line of phones are reportedly heavily Apple influnced.
Bottom line for any company: don't confuse lawsuit with anything other the sledgehammers that companies use to "win" a more favorable business position.
Willmark
Also, there are plenty of outright Iphone copies already. Was it the Aphone, or Lphone or something like that. Made in China obviously. And a lot of similar ones, just saw like a dozen Samsungs advertised on TV.
But that's all beside the point. I was just making a theoretical example. I could have gone with "MS suing everyone who sues a graphical interface" or "Google suing everyone who makes a search engine". For no particular reason other than that they feel like they invented them.
I can't say anything more other then just because you can sue over X does not mean you are guilty of X.Haven't talked to a lawyer lately then ;P or a tabloid "journalist". Accusation implies guilt. :o
Willmark
Besides as a bona fide Nokia shareholder I'm totally biased. :hat off
Everyone knows Apples are bad. Says so in the bible. ;P;P;P
Willmark:
Well alright then let’s get back to GW!
Baggronor:
Well alright then let's get back to GW!Yeah, at least the phone companies actually all make the phones in question, rather than having a go at competitors who filled the gap created by their own lameness.
cornixt:
The competitors are certainly free to sell the figures, they just can’t say “This is a perfect model to play GW games with” which is what they are doing. It’s not fair on a company that builds up demand and reputation and then has someone else saying “use my stuff that I have made specifically to fill this role of this companies product”. They are perfectly allowed to say “use my stuff that I have made to fill this purpose” instead.
This_Is_My_Boomstick!!:
Looks like Fumbbl.com just got a C&D order
From GW Legal about the Website
* the Website contains copies of Blood Bowl statistics and rules;
* the Java Bowl programme contains various pieces of GW Blood Bowl art including the Blood Bowl pitch and Blood Bowl logo; and
* the Java Bowl programme uses all the Blood Bowl rules and statistics for each model.
Grimstonefire:
Sorry if this sounds harsh to blood bowl fans here, but why does GW even care? It’s not like they make a lot of money from it, and it’s not really supported.
It seems to me like any forum that has anything to do with blood bowl is being taken down one at a time.
I know, it’s the principle of the thing right?
slev:
Grim: In certain territories, a failure of enforcement is taken to rescind the holder’s claim. As a result, they’re required by law to enforce.
The complaint in this case is not with GW, but the structure of laws. Complain not to GW, but your elected representative.
A similar thing arose recently on Boardgamegeek with Steve Jackson Games.
snowblizz:
Sorry if this sounds harsh to blood bowl fans here, but why does GW even care? It's not like they make a lot of money from it, and it's not really supported.I was wondering the same thing when it suddenly struck me. I know exactly why this is happening.
It seems to me like any forum that has anything to do with blood bowl is being taken down one at a time.
I know, it's the principle of the thing right?
Grimstonefire
Bloodbowl the computer game.
They (computer games "manufacturer") have paid GW for the license, so to keep them paying GW needs to stop (or show that they are) all other Bloodbowl stuff on-line. They need to make sure only GW or the licensee have BB stuff or the license won't be worth as much in the future when it comes time to renew/renegotiate it.
Warhammerman:
I can see GW not wanting people to make money off of minis by blatantly selling them as Blood Bowl Stand Ins. So it was sort of going to come sooner or later.
But, some parts just sound ridiculous.
cornixt:
I’m surprised it took them so long. For over 10 years, nearly all of the Blood Bowl rules and player rules have been very easily available all over the net. With the new rulebook coming out, it sounds like they are doing a new boxset.