Vardan Painkiller:
In Tamurkhan book rules read:
"…after the shot has been resolved, place the large (5") template over the target marker and resolve a hit against any model touched by it."
Does it have to be centered on the marker? Or can i cover the marker with any part of the template? And why?
Grimbold Blackhammer:
The center of the template goes on the marker. Because the rules for shooting template weapons tell us so.
Grimbold Blackhammer
Vogon:
From a Non-RAW reason the centre of the marker is where the missile explodes and the template is the blast radius.
Perfectly logical and intuitive (for once ;))
Cheers
Vogon
Vardan Painkiller:
The thing is that rocket doesnt land!
According to fluff it explodes above and incendiaries reach for the targets.
Could you please send me to RB page detailing it? As far as i remember other warmachines dont use markers, its either template or “nominated points”.
Grimbold Blackhammer:
Page 115 describes firing a stone thrower which you should find a handy reference. The rules for the Death Shrieker Rocket do indeed specify use a “coin or marker”.
There is no easter egg here.
Grimbold Blackhammer
Vardan Painkiller:
But death rocket doesn’t have a reference to stone thrower in it’s description! Quite opposite , it has a very detailed description of how to use it. Thats why my doubts.
Groznit Goregut:
Well, let’s put it this way. If you tried to argue it at a tournament or friendly game, would anyone let you play it that way? It’s downright wrong to try to twist it the way you want. The rules are obvious in how they should be implemented. No one in their right mind would let you get away with how you want to play it.
Thommy H:
No, he’s right - it never mentions “stone thrower” at all. The rules aren’t specific enough about how to place the template. We all “know” it’s supposed to be done that way, but if they’re going to needlessly reiterate a version of the rules for a stone thrower, they should probably do a better job of it…
Don’t hate the player, hate the game etc. etc.
Vardan Painkiller:
But isnt it fluff correct?
Grimbold Blackhammer:
The reason fluff is called fluff is because that’s exactly what’s it is worth. Nothing. Fluff has zero value. It’s just fluff.
Grimbold Blackhammer
Da Crusha:
your not likely to win any friends with that move.
Vardan Painkiller:
The reason fluff is called fluff is because that's exactly what's it is worth. Nothing. Fluff has zero value. It's just fluff.But then you cant say it shoots like stone thrower rules wise, so u can place template anywhere as long as it covers whole marker :hat off
Grimbold Blackhammer
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Groznit Goregut:
No TO would rule in your favor & you can kiss any sports scores goodbye. If you aren’t in tournaments, then you won’t have friendly games for long. I say it’s down right cheating & I would “hate the player” for a stunt like that.
Bad form.
giantsquig :
On a simular note can you fire the rocket into the center of a unit or only from in the first rank.
It states in the rules that the marker needs to be placed in the LOS of the rocket so if your not elevated you don’t have LOS to the middle of the unit.
Vardan Painkiller:
On a simular note can you fire the rocket into the center of a unit or only from in the first rank.Agreed, it was ruled during ETC that rockets need LOS, so they can't fire indirectly.
It states in the rules that the marker needs to be placed in the LOS of the rocket so if your not elevated you don't have LOS to the middle of the unit.
giantsquig
Grimbold Blackhammer:
Our war machines are nice and tall. Mine have no problems shooting into the middle of a unit.
Grimbold Blackhammer
Vardan Painkiller:
I belive ETC rules set virtual LoS.
Vardan Painkiller:
Anyhow, does anyone gave the issue in question any deeper thought, i didnt find anything that would force to place template centerd on the marker.