lilith:
i like a new armybook but i’m pleased also with the indy gt , maybe some plastic minis what we really need. To convert an army is funny but some official new model are really appreciated.
Ronshank:
I love the effort eveybody puts in but I am totally not worried about anything that GW could dream up in an army book. I would welcome it all and I doubt it would totally stop me converting but then I probably would get a little lazy about converting some things. I mean there really is nothing like actual hobgoblin models, hoards take alot of time and energy to convert when you have to convert and i’d just as easily be happy if they were scrapped altogether. I’d just go along with any offical list and I’d buy the army too, it would depend weather I liked the new design as to weather i’d convert to match the new one or match my already converted ones. But then I like using real rules and playing in legitimate tournaments. Besides i’d keep doing my own thing and I’m sure a lot of you guys on the site would too. I paint my greenskins blue as smurfs and not even tournaments can have problems with that so long as I use at least 4 distinct colours. Meaning GW cannon only stops you if you let it. I mean GW gives us unpainted models to paint, it doesn’t say you can’t play if you don’t do it exactyly like us. I play this army because ‘my drummer’ plays eletric guitar and goodies are just so blah. Thats not going to change because of an army book
randomsam:
The thing that really impressed me about this website and the gamers on it are how dedicated they are. Chaos Dwarfs have been out of print for ages and had basically no official support, and yet there are people out there that love them so much that they keep going, converting their own armies and writing their own articles, books and stores. This means the people that are into CD’s are really special. I felt like I’d really exhausted a lot of my interest in warhammer and in collecting armies that GW were producing just because I didnt want an army just anyone could go out and buy. I love the fact that CD’s are for the dedicated veterans.
Its true that it would be great if GW produced an army. I love when they put out new stuff, because its more material to read and enjoy, more models to look at and collect and paint. I think a new range of CD’s would enrich everyone’s experience of chaos dwarfs the world over. But it will take away a measure of the special nature of the current CD community.
That said, I agree with the point of view that I doubt GW/FW will release a whole CD army in one hit with a supporting book. I think they released the hellcannon to gauge people’s reaction to CD’s, and they will do something similar again, releasing a unit or two and/or a warmachine that can be annexed to existing armies.
I’ve heard that FW will be releasing warhammer campaign supplements similar to the 40K FW books. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that one of them will be a chaos focused campaign and will include a few CD units as supporting allies as part of the narrative.
Even if FW releases CD’s i think they will still remain a niche army as they will be resin models, which are more expensive and aimed at veteran gamers. All in all, I think CD’s are safely the domain of veteran gamers and modellers for some time to come.
And if a new age dawns and suddenly CD’s are much more easily available and popular, well that might work out well too, plenty of other races have dedicated players and modellers, producing webzines and beautifully painting armies. Whatever comes, comes.
snowblizz:
If there was an official CD range, I could use them in tournaments.This is basically what I think is the most important thing to remember. We can always ignore official fluff and models, but trying to fight against a compact "you do not exist officially" is in the end futile. It will certainly take another decade or two, Dwarfs of any type are famously tenacious, but in the end the weight of non-existence will grinds us down.
In Montreal we have no access to CD except in friendly games. They're just as "outlawed" as Dogs of War and Gnoblar Hordes.
Spikes
Ultimately we do not need GW to give us rules or models, we need official recognition. However in GW's case this consists of them making new rules and models in an official armybook.
dedwrekka:
Just have one point to make here...Skavenslaves, they explode instead of run causing some good damage, can be shot through when in combat to hit the enemy (now without any chance of hitting the slaves unit), and they're initiative 4.
Can anyone else name a 2point per model unit that can best hobgoblins? Anyone?
Valrim
Night Goblins are comparable to Hobgoblins, and for the same points cost of a hobgob with shield.
i love the variation in the designs as it is.All you need to do is go over to The Underempire to prove that's not the case. We're, what, a handful of people who've discovered or grew up in the hobby with Chaos Dwarfs. Alright. Take that amount and compare it to the number of conversions and different types of armies that are out there. Dwarfs, Empire, Skaven, Orcs, Vampire Counts. There's a lot of variation in very "established" armies with full GW model lines. The number of conversions here is frankly a drop in the sea compared to what some other armies have.
Necessity breads creation.
If there was an official GW range, it'd be overpriced, half as pretty as most of the stuff on here, and this forum would be stagnant of new designs
Naaa, i like what we have.
nitroglysarine
Why is that? Well, we're a fringe army. Out of the thousands that pick up a Warhammer rulebook, few know we exist, less know there are still people building and collecting armies for them. Much less know about this site. Of all the people who could be potentially interested in building Chaos Dwarfs as they see it, maybe 1/4 of them really know about them.
Fallen246:
As it stands, the thing holding me back from assembling an army is I don’t have all the bits from other kits that I want.
Should an official army be released, I’m still probably going to use those parts 
But still buy the “official” product, to help keep us official and usable.
Shakhorth:
As it stands, the thing holding me back from assembling an army is I don't have all the bits from other kits that I want.If bits hold you back, check out the hoard_*_bits shop on ebay. They sell almost any plastic gw bits currently on the market.
Should an official army be released, I'm still probably going to use those parts :P But still buy the "official" product, to help keep us official and usable.
Fallen246
http://stores.benl.ebay.be/hoardobits
Should we ever get an official armybook I'll glady pick it up and perhaps some of the mini's they'd produce to support it. Afterall it would finally make the CD's an official army. So nobody could claim they don't want to play against us for we use 'crazy' rules. Although I'd still keep my (growing) army. Besides how many people outside CD players could say they'd play with a completely converted army? :hat off
Fallen246:
If bits hold you back, check out the hoard_*_bits shop on ebay. They sell almost any plastic gw bits currently on the market.It's not just that entirely :P I intend to use those bits combined with a Dwarf Battallion or three for my conversions, and Battallions are costly. Plus I will have the bits, but I've got to finish my other armies before that. I'd rather not start another army without having the rest done :P
http://stores.benl.ebay.be/hoardobits
Shakhorth
Back on topic, another thing that has dawned on me is this: What if our lovingly made units don't have army listings, or worse yet nothing for them to "count as"?
If GW condemns Blunderbusses and/or bull centaurs I will personally rage.
Fequiil:
Back on topic, another thing that has dawned on me is this: What if our lovingly made units don't have army listings, or worse yet nothing for them to "count as"?that's exactly what i mean, we do want an upduate, ofcourse, but we are very afraid of it aswell.x.x
If GW condemns Blunderbusses and/or bull centaurs I will personally rage.
Fallen246
Grimstonefire:
What I anticipate will happen is that GW/FW won’t invalide the RH list, because they will not make another stand alone list (not for a long time anyway)… So all our counts as units will still be perfectly playable.
What they will (hopefully) do is release some new things with rules. So someone here will just slot the new official things into an extended RH list etc (or potentially just have them as part of a separate ‘Chaos Dwarf mercenaries’ list to an existing fanlist, like the Indy one).
If, as was rumoured, they put them in the context of a ‘chaos’ book (WoC), there would always be the opportunity to just play the FW list and the CD as ‘counts as’ (if it’s game legal for choices).
Fallen246:
This makes me wonder what new units CD could have exactly?
Special characters would be easy and obvious, but we’d probably need a few new things to fill up our special choices?
Thommy H:
Take a look at some of the fanlists around here: plenty of ideas.
Grimstonefire:
@Fallen
I think the more likely scenario is us providing hundreds of different variants of warmachines to the WoC list (and potentially all other armies now actually because of the allies rules in the rulebook, if a player was the general of 2 armies). So finding new core unit rules would be the issue, not the special/ rare choices.
AssurBahniZharr:
You mean that as we could probaly provide other armies (mostly WoC) with special/rare choices (warmachines aren’t core of course), the real problem will be for us to receive core unit rules and minis, Master Grim?
I hope it won’t be the case:P
This is why I want and hope for some rules (and Yes I will be more than happy of an official armybook) and new minis expecially thousand of our untrusty, chaotic, expendable, lovable HobgoblinsXD
Don’t you think with the new edition it would make sense to have some hobgoblins release? They are the most difficult minis to find and most used, and i don’t think it would be a commercial non-sense for GW. So I think almost everyone playing CDs will buy them! no?!
Fequiil:
nope, i wont as there are plenty of ways to convert hobgobbos/slaves…
AssurBahniZharr:
Come on, you can even use chess pieces as hobgoblins, if you like.
Nothing I’ve seen can match the real hobgolins, to me.
Considering also that you can virtually convert everything, noone should buy anything at all from gw=P
Fequiil:
what about the rules?