# \[Archive\] ETC comp for LoA Draft #3

**URL:** <https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472>\
**Category:** \[Archive\] Chaos Dwarf Discussion\
**Created:** [14 April 2012 10:24 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472 "2012-04-14T10:24:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DiscoQing](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/user_avatar/discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/discoqing/32/7166_2.png) [@DiscoQing](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/DiscoQing)\
**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:24 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/1 "2012-04-14T10:24:08Z")

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**Discoking** :

Hey guys,  
  
Here’s: [ETC draft 3](http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=100748)  
  
& here’s specific LoA comp:  
  
**Chaos Dwarfs**  
  
_Hellcannon & Iron Daemon are each 0-1._  
   
_Iron Daemon, K’daai Destroyer count as war machines_  
   
_Chalice of Blood & Darkness counts as 2 PD_  
   
_Max 3 out of:_  
   
_Str. 5 shooting templates / K’daai Destroyer / Iron Daemons._  
   
_You can choose either “Chalice” or Sorcerer Prophet_  
   
_Lore of Hashut can be cast with max 4 PD._   
  
Personally, I think the comp for them is ok,  
  
other than the max. 4 casting dice for the Lore of Hashut.  
  
It should be max. 5, like all the other lores.

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:27 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/2 "2012-04-14T10:27:00Z")

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**Thommy H** :

I don’t know why they’d make Iron Daemons 0-1 but not Destroyers.

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:34 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/3 "2012-04-14T10:34:21Z")

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**KramDratta** :

> I don't know why they'd make Iron Daemons 0-1 but not Destroyers.  
>   
> **Thommy H**

@Thommy: Can't fit 2 in a 2400 game mate :)  
  
Four dice hurts us on the Flames of Azgroh, which makes it cast exactly on average dice (14+4)

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:35 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/4 "2012-04-14T10:35:30Z")

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**Thommy H** :

Oh okay. I didn’t know what the points limit was.

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 12:46 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/5 "2012-04-15T12:46:55Z")

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**richard barby** :

i bet the people who made the pack havent even played the loa more than once

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 12:50 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/6 "2012-04-15T12:50:50Z")

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**Da Crusha** :

wow they sure tried to nerf the list. I wonder what they did to other lists. it doesnt feel like a very fun tournament. I think putting a penalty for too hard of a list is better than just flat out shaping the way a list can be built.

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 04:02 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/7 "2012-04-15T04:02:56Z")

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**Grimbold Blackhammer** :

I just wrote and incredibly long and inflamatory post criticizing the ETC’s rules and rule-making procedures. However in the name of self-moderation, I thought better than to post it. Instead I’ll just say I’m so glad no one in California uses their inane rule pack.  
  
Grimbold Blackhammer

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 05:03 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/8 "2012-04-15T05:03:55Z")

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**Satan** :

The team this year were open with their reasoning as to why they comped the LoA so hard - they had little experience against them and thought it better to comp too much rather than too little. I think they made the right call.  
  
As the process then goes feedback is given by the teams and restrictions then lifted or altered.  
  
The lores of Death & Shadow are also currently capped at 4 dice.

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 07:10 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/9 "2012-04-15T07:10:52Z")

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**richard barby** :

> The team this year were open with their reasoning as to why they comped the LoA so hard - they had little experience against them and thought it better to comp too much rather than too little. I think they made the right call.  
>   
> As the process then goes feedback is given by the teams and restrictions then lifted or altered.  
>   
> The lores of Death & Shadow are also currently capped at 4 dice.  
>   
> **Satan**

is it just those 3 how about warriors with mark of T still get to 5 dice gateway ?

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 07:41 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/10 "2012-04-15T07:41:07Z")

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**fattdex** :

Can take a destroyer and 2 magma cannons in an army, good to go

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:24 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/11 "2012-04-14T10:24:08Z")

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**Discoking** :

Hey guys,  
  
Here’s: [ETC draft 3](http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=100748)  
  
& here’s specific LoA comp:  
  
**Chaos Dwarfs**  
  
_Hellcannon & Iron Daemon are each 0-1._  
   
_Iron Daemon, K’daai Destroyer count as war machines_  
   
_Chalice of Blood & Darkness counts as 2 PD_  
   
_Max 3 out of:_  
   
_Str. 5 shooting templates / K’daai Destroyer / Iron Daemons._  
   
_You can choose either “Chalice” or Sorcerer Prophet_  
   
_Lore of Hashut can be cast with max 4 PD._   
  
Personally, I think the comp for them is ok,  
  
other than the max. 4 casting dice for the Lore of Hashut.  
  
It should be max. 5, like all the other lores.

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:27 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/12 "2012-04-14T10:27:00Z")

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**Thommy H** :

I don’t know why they’d make Iron Daemons 0-1 but not Destroyers.

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:34 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/13 "2012-04-14T10:34:21Z")

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**KramDratta** :

> I don't know why they'd make Iron Daemons 0-1 but not Destroyers.  
>   
> **Thommy H**

@Thommy: Can't fit 2 in a 2400 game mate :)  
  
Four dice hurts us on the Flames of Azgroh, which makes it cast exactly on average dice (14+4)

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**Post date:** [14 April 2012 10:35 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/14 "2012-04-14T10:35:30Z")

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**Thommy H** :

Oh okay. I didn’t know what the points limit was.

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 12:46 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/15 "2012-04-15T12:46:55Z")

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**richard barby** :

i bet the people who made the pack havent even played the loa more than once

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 12:50 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/16 "2012-04-15T12:50:50Z")

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**Da Crusha** :

wow they sure tried to nerf the list. I wonder what they did to other lists. it doesnt feel like a very fun tournament. I think putting a penalty for too hard of a list is better than just flat out shaping the way a list can be built.

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 04:02 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/17 "2012-04-15T04:02:56Z")

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**Grimbold Blackhammer** :

I just wrote and incredibly long and inflamatory post criticizing the ETC’s rules and rule-making procedures. However in the name of self-moderation, I thought better than to post it. Instead I’ll just say I’m so glad no one in California uses their inane rule pack.  
  
Grimbold Blackhammer

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [15 April 2012 05:03 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/18 "2012-04-15T05:03:55Z")

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**Satan** :

The team this year were open with their reasoning as to why they comped the LoA so hard - they had little experience against them and thought it better to comp too much rather than too little. I think they made the right call.  
  
As the process then goes feedback is given by the teams and restrictions then lifted or altered.  
  
The lores of Death & Shadow are also currently capped at 4 dice.

---

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 07:10 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/19 "2012-04-15T07:10:52Z")

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**richard barby** :

> The team this year were open with their reasoning as to why they comped the LoA so hard - they had little experience against them and thought it better to comp too much rather than too little. I think they made the right call.  
>   
> As the process then goes feedback is given by the teams and restrictions then lifted or altered.  
>   
> The lores of Death & Shadow are also currently capped at 4 dice.  
>   
> **Satan**

is it just those 3 how about warriors with mark of T still get to 5 dice gateway ?

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**Post date:** [15 April 2012 07:41 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-etc-comp-for-loa-draft-3/16472/20 "2012-04-15T07:41:07Z")

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**fattdex** :

Can take a destroyer and 2 magma cannons in an army, good to go