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Ceann Fine:

Heroes

Daemonsmith (General)

Level 2 (Metal)

Dispel Scroll

Charmed Shield

Dark Castellan

BSB

Enchanted Shield

Talisman of Endurance

Taur’uk

Blackshard Armour

Crown of Command

Great Weapon

Hobgoblin Khan

Giant Wolf

Core

25 infernal guard

FC

Great Weapons

Banner of Swiftness

20 Hobgoblins

FC

Shields

20 Hobgoblins

FC

Shields

Special

6 Bull Centaurs

FC

Great Weapons

Magma Cannon

Magma Cannon

Rare

K’daai Destroyer

Hellcannon

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Samanos:

is this for the WIP draft 3?

i think you will miss the lvl4…

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Ceann Fine:

The chaos dwarf section of draft three isn’t WIP AFAIK but yes:cheers

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Samanos:

http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=113144&sid=5734a60a92138196a003bd72c08dbc3c

if its this then its WIP, as far as i know draft 3 is not out yet.

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Ceann Fine:

No draft 3 isn’t released but the chaos dwraf entry in it isn’t WIP, unless i went full retard and can’t see three letters beside their entry. Not impossible minid

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Ceann Fine:

I admit though that I can’t access the etc draft link due to work filters :wink:

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KramDratta:

Chaos Dwarfs (2400p)
Chalice or Sorcerer Prophet. Chalice of darkness counts as 2 PD.
Iron daemon counts as war machine, K'daii destroyer counts as 2 war machines.
Prophet with death lore/Hellcannon/K'daii destroyer, max 2 in total.
@Ceann Finn: K'Daai now costs TWO warmachines, so you can't have 2 magmas, hell cannon & K'daai...

And as stated above you'll miss the Lvl 4.....
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Ceann Fine:

Shit, cheers man. Now I’ve 150 points to play with

9

Ceann Fine:

3 Bull centuars with great weapons and a musician?

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Ceann Fine:

Heroes

Daemonsmith (General)

Level 2 (Metal)

Dispel Scroll

Charmed Shield 160

Dark Castellan

BSB

Enchanted Shield

Talisman of Endurance 165

Taur’uk

Blackshard Armour

Crown of Command

Great Weapon 220

Hobgoblin Khan

Giant Wolf 52

Core

25 infernal guard

FC

Great Weapons

Banner of Swiftness 422

20 Hobgoblins

FC

Shields 110

20 Hobgoblins

FC

Shields 110

Special

6 Bull Centaurs

FC

Great Weapons 325

Magma Cannon 145

3 Bull Centaurs

Great Weapons

Musician 155

Rare

K’daai Destroyer 325

Hellcannon 210

Attempt 2 :cheers

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Samanos:

Chaos Dwarfs (2400p)
Chalice or Sorcerer Prophet. Chalice of darkness counts as 2 PD.
Iron daemon counts as war machine, K'daii destroyer counts as 2 war machines.
Prophet with death lore/Hellcannon/K'daii destroyer, max 2 in total.
@Ceann Finn: K'Daai now costs TWO warmachines, so you can't have 2 magmas, hell cannon & K'daai...


KramDratta
actually he can...
hellcannon is a template but not a machine. its a monster instead. so he is fine.
another broken combo would be 2 magma, 1 dreadquake, 1 hellcannon and Iron demon :o
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Ceann Fine:

I hate this latest draft, it’s getting to the stage where I’m considering dropping a k’daai

13

KramDratta:

@Samanos: You are allowed a max of 4 warmachines & template weapons. K’Daai counts as 2, 2 Magma & Hellcannon = 5. I’d love to be proved wrong…

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Samanos:

@Samanos: You are allowed a max of 4 warmachines & template weapons. K'Daai counts as 2, 2 Magma & Hellcannon = 5. I'd love to be proved wrong...

KramDratta
but I already told you. hellcannon is not listed as a machine but as a monster in the WoC army book. so it is not listed in the 4 warmachines restriction
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Ceann Fine:

But it has a template weapon so it counts for he 0-4

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Samanos:

But it has a template weapon so it counts for he 0-4

Ceann Fine
yes but kdaai is not a template weapon. let me explain

magma cannon= machine + template
destroyer= 2 machines
hellcannon= template

2 magmas + destroyer= 4 machines BUT 2 templates (out of max 4 templates)

so you have 2 more slots for template weapons that are not warmachines (aka hellcannon).

makes sense? :)
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Ceann Fine:

But the ruling is 0-4 of warmachines and template weapons, k’daai accounts for two warmachines and the magma cannon and the hellcannon account for the last warmachine and template spot respectively. I read it the way you read it at first too but got corrected on it at the list submission stage for an etc tournament

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Yodrin:

Is it only me, or is the etc comp for CD pretty harsh?

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Samanos:

But the ruling is 0-4 of warmachines and template weapons, k'daai accounts for two warmachines and the magma cannon and the hellcannon account for the last warmachine and template spot respectively. I read it the way you read it at first too but got corrected on it at the list submission stage for an etc tournament

Ceann Fine
seems i misread the text. damnation... and here I was making lists with hellcannon. bah! back to dreadquakes.

@Ceann since its like that I say drop the destroyer, 2 slots is not worth it in my opinion.

@Yodrin: Actually I think its not that bad. especially if they leave them as they are on the wip draft 3.
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Ceann Fine:

But they won’t leave them at draft 3 mate :slight_smile: next draft will have

prophet on death/bale taurus/hellcannon/k’daai 0-2 to nerf another popular build

I’m giving the list a try against my mates lizzies tonight to see how they fare