[Archive] Fishmen - When will I stop doing armies GW dislike?

Kyte:

Greetings Everybody. Since December 27th 2006, I have been doing a chaos dwarf army, and I have made and painted aproximately 2000pts and converted a lot more. Apart from that, I have sculpted 3 immortals (Chaos Dwarf elites, that I intend to start selling this summer.

The problem is that the Chaos Dwarfs have begun to bore me. Just like Beastmen did before chaos dwarfs, and Wood elves did before beasemen, and as I have been sculpting randomly and without warning for a couple of months now, I did the mistake of sculpting a fishman, that is so cool, that people, that knows nothing about warhammer likes better than a normal Lizardman.

The idea is that I will do a small 500pts force of these fishmen, just to make them bore me and go back to Chaos Dwarfs. The army will not include any GW stuff, Except for bases and paint. I intend to sculpt another fishman skink and cast the 2 up along with a lot of sea creatures to make cool bases and swarms. The army will use the lizardmen rules with the following exceptions:

All units are aquatic.

Fishmen are not cold blooded, but all fishmen have +1 leadership compared to their lizardmen counterparts

THe fishman player may place a 6x6" water feature on his side of the table, just like a wood elf player may place a wood.

I have made me a 500pts force:

LvL 2 Skink mage priest

LvL 2 Skink mage priest

10 Skink skirmishers with Blowpipes

10 Skink skirmishers with Blowpipes

3 Sea Swarms

Tactics

Shamen:
I have recently learned that magic using characters will almost always kill more enemies than fighting characters in small games, therefore I picked 2 Shamen. 2 LVL2’s will almose certainly leave me with at least one damage spell, and there’s a fair chance that that spell is the Comet of Casandora, which is one of my favourite spells.

Skinks:
One of the best and most cost-effective core units in the game. These are almost as cheap as Gnoblar trappers, and come with multiple ranged poison attacks, which makes them dangerous to charge, as nobody wants 20 poisoned darts fired at them. The downside is that with a toughness value of 2, almost anything woulds them on 2’s

Swarms:
The choice between Swarms and Kroxigors. It might seem insane to have such an expensive unit, when I could have taken 30 skinks in stead, but lets face it, swarms have the same chance of killing a dragon, as killing 5 goblins, and the goblins and the dragon have the same chance of killing the swarms. God I love poisoned attacks.
Besides, Kroxigors (Giant Lobstermen) would require me to invent a whole new form of mold, which would be nothing to look forward to, and a whole mold for only 3 models would be insane.

I am sorry that I have no pictures yet, but I don’t have my Camera here. I can tell you that the skink sculpt is great. My best sculpt ever. I painted a skink green and brought both the fish and the skink to my school, and most people thought thet the skink was my armateur sculpt and the Fish was real.

Man that’s a lot of text. I’m sorry for all you, who doesn’t normally read stuff, but only browse these forums for cool pics.

Thanks

- Kyte

Abyss:

Greetings Ogrestronghold members.

Kyte
hmmmm... ogre stronghold members... something a bit wrong there.

fishmen are however a very cool idea and as im sure you will know are an ongoing joke amongst gamers and gw staff.

however im not sure your opponent will be very happy when your using 2 mages in 500 pts. i wouldn't be lol.

Willmark:

Seems like your are a glutton for punishment there Kyte!

Kyte:

Greetings Ogrestronghold members.

Kyte
hmmmm... ogre stronghold members... something a bit wrong there.



abyss
Yeah okay... Just copypasted the message... Didn't realise that...
Seems like your are a glutton for punishment there Kyte!

Willmark
Because I do another army, because the armylist is cheesy, or because GW dislike fishmen?

Thanks

- Kyte

GRNDL:

I’m sure that you will create something quite unique Kyte, especially if you divorce yourself from GW’s models. I’m interested in what you cook up - my own attempts in this area have been only toward the aquatic lizardmen end of things - not quite fishmen, but definitely in the same area.

Can’t wait to see what you’re up to. Good luck!

GRNDL:

fishmen are however a very cool idea and as im sure you will know are an ongoing joke amongst gamers and gw staff.

abyss
Maybe they are to GW and co, but lets face it, they have a huge following in the rest of SF/Fantasy. HP Lovecraft's Deep Ones are way up there, D&D Sahuagin, Kuo-toa, merfolk... and of course, with the success of World of Warcraft, Murlocs are making them very popular...

You'll be seeing the "Innsmouth" look all over the place. :)

Ishkur Cinderhat:

Go for it, Kyte!

I can’t imagine how Chaos Dwarfs can be boring, but I can understand that one needs a break from an army to gather new energy. I was also quite fond of the idea of an aquatic army back when I played the Naga in “WarCraft III: The Frozen Throne” and collected some ideas for that:

1) I always thought the clam shells that are sold in big bags as table decoration would make great shields.

2) A slann can easily be turned into a Cthulhu figure with tentacled head

3) a giant turtle with howdah would make a great Stegadon stand-in.

4) flood the bases: I planned to make a mould for filling up the bases with 5mm of clear resin so that the feet of each miniature would be “under water”

5) wouldn’t seahorses be endlessly cool as mounts :wink:

6) make good use of tridents and sawfish blades as weapons!

Since I’m never going to realise this army, maybe you can use one of these ideas or the other.

Kera foehunter:

Of course you were trying to enslave those ogre .Right Kyte.

i think its a great idea

Uzkul Werit:

Gods speed and I can’t wait to see the results.

Anyone see the Fishmen Orcs on Da Warpath?

Kyte:

Anyone see the Fishmen Orcs on Da Warpath?

Uzkul Werit
Yes, The Fishmen of Sartosa. Anybody knows if Sartosa is the actual name of that sunken city close to Ulthaun? What's it called otherwise? It's the home of the Fishmen, so please let me know for fluff reasons...

Thanks

- Kyte

GRNDL:

The only sunken city I know of in the Warhammer world is the lizardman city of Chupayotl, which is on the east coast of Lustria, SE of Xotl, if I remember. The fluff only implies that it is a lizardman city - it once was, but now it has sunk, who knows what is really there?

I’m not familiar with fishmen fluff in WH.

Ishkur Cinderhat:

Aye, Chupayotl it is. Something like the fishmen is mentioned in the DE army book, IIRC. Saying something like aquatic beings living in the underground water tunnels south of Naggarond.

Kera foehunter:

well that’s sounds good. they look like elves with gills

GRNDL:

Must resist… temptation… to… do… something… similar…

(Yeah, ok, too late. I had already mentioned something about dreams of gnoblar fishmen in another thread, but Kyte’s enthusiasm for this is inspiring me…

URRGHH!

:slight_smile:

Bring on the Fish/Shark (wo)Men

(I hope this enthusiasm doesn’t end up in a rival page competing for users called “Fishmen Online” or similar… Although I confess my membership would probably be on it at some point)

AGPO:

Anyone got a link to the warpath fishmen

zorn sabretooth:

sartosa is the city of pirates