[Archive] Forge World Resin

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Necrotique:

Why does Forge World resin make me feel sick?

I usually cover up, but even if I breathe in the modelling area a while after sanding or cutting it makes me get a pressure (like a headache, usually on one side) above my eyes that’s very unpleasant and makes me squint… is this normal?

Never actually heard the science behind the resin problem, and would be curious to know. Incidentally, Finecast resin has the same effect on me, though I’m fine with Armorcast dust.

Thankyou :slight_smile:

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Zuh-Khinie:

One of the reasons FW isn’t sold through local GW stores, or why you’re not allowed to assemble FW products there, is because it’s poisonous… while filing it, make sure to do it in a well ventilated room, and be sure to do it over a surface that’s easily cleaned afterwards.

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deadlydeceiver:

I don’t remember where I got this from, but I always took resin dust as being toxic. :o

I never worked with Armourcast, but it’s rather strange, that your not “reacting” to their dust.

'til now I always just used a knife with resin, but I can see situations where sanding is needed.

End of the Story: Always wear a mask when your expecting resin dust!

DD

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Necrotique:

I’ll be sure to wear the mask in the room even after I’m done and might just do any resin work over the bath-tub so I can flush it after.

Growing up on and now working on a farm, I’ve been (accidentally, I hope) exposed to lots of chemicals and this feels more or less the same. Couldn’t vomit if I wanted to.

What’s the active reactive ingredient in it, if anyone knows? Just curious if it is indeed different to Armorcast resin.

Thanks for the help guys!

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vulcanologist:

When you think about it it’s a bit strange… GW and most other companies made the switch to White metal because they said they had trouble with the health and safety laws concerning lead content in miniatures…now they’re switching away from White metal to another potentially harmful substance! Hmmm… Curiouser and curiouser!

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Zuh-Khinie:

FYI, finecast-resin is not harmfull… one of the reasons they made the switch to it (that and the fact they’d make more money with an inferior product ofcourse).

Only FW sticks to the harder toxic form of resin, because it gives a better edge to the details.

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warh:

What's the active reactive ingredient in it, if anyone knows? Just curious if it is indeed different to Armorcast resin.

Necrotique
I think its called Isocyanates (very dangerous), I really would avoid sanding resin as much as possible.
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aka_mythos:

Why does Forge World resin make me feel sick?
I usually cover up, but even if I breathe in the modelling area a while after sanding or cutting it makes me get a pressure (like a headache, usually on one side) above my eyes that's very unpleasant and makes me squint... is this normal?
Never actually heard the science behind the resin problem, and would be curious to know. Incidentally, Finecast resin has the same effect on me, though I'm fine with Armorcast dust.

Thankyou :)

Necrotique
The pressure above your eyes is from irritation in your sinus cavities. Your sinuses filter out particulate matter to protect your lungs. Thats what's happening with the resin dust. You should also be feeling congested with a lot of mucus, thats the sinuses expelling the collected dust so that you can cough it up or let it take the long ride through the digestive track.

I'm not sure what the differences between Armorcast and FW resin is from a dust standpoint, though it seems to imply an allergic component, since neither is good for you. There are many types of resins, some contain latex and/or byproducts from coniferous tress, both are common allergians, but that isn't as common in casting resins. The main thing people have a reaction to is the hardener in resins, which if exposed to, you will develope an increasing sensitivity to. Those hardeners contain organic compounds which in addition to their allergy inducing reaction can also exert a weak hormone like property, that depending on degree of exposure can reduce cognitive abilities and lead to physical feminization. Development of breast tissue, permenant changes to the gential tract, and increased prostate weight are common low dosage exposure side effects. Realistically thats not going to happen unless you go out of your way to expose yourself, or expose yourself to it on a daily occupational level.

Whether you have a reaction or not, its better not to expose yourself to any fine particulate dust. When inhaled if it reaches your lungs it can cause microscopic scratches and irritation and because your lungs don't really have a good way of dissposing of it, its persistent. That type of persistent irritation and damage can lead to cancer or developement of asthma.

As others have said "wear a mask!"

In the event you forget to wear a mask, drink a lot of water. It will help your body filter the stuff out and clean it from your sinuses, reducing the intensity of the allergic reaction.