# \[Archive\] Hobgoblin Winkie Guards
**URL:** https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305
**Category:** \[Archive\] Modeling Ideas and Advice
**Created:** [19 March 2012 01:19 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305 "2012-03-19T01:19:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [19 March 2012 01:19 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/1 "2012-03-19T01:19:11Z")
**Singleton Mosby** :
Since I started with my Chaos Dwarf army (eh…about three weeks ago ;)) I’ve been toying with the idea of creating Winkie guard models as Hobgoblins instead of the obligatory elongated goblins. With no previous experience with Greenstuff and almost no experience with conversions I set to work and made my first winkie prototype.
For thos who have no idea what Winkie guards are: they are the bodygaurd of the Wicked Witch of the West from the [Wizard of Oz movie](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtie6r27JeU).
I set out looking for some good models to base the protype on. In my Bretonnia collection I found this unused standard bearer. I had never used him as he’s kinda ‘elfish’. I think he is original GW, probably 3rd edition or something.
First thing I did was cut off the arm with the sword as I needed the space for the skirt/coat. I reatached the arm at a better angle with the sword upwards instead of downwards. The sword was badly mangled however. I decided to keep the flag and not make it into a spear. Cut away some additional stuff from the back of the model to make him a little slimmer and then went off with the Greenstuff.
It took me a while to get into it but I sort of managed. First the three layers of the skirt, then the chainmail on the arms, the strips on the upper arms and the back and the fur-hat. Followed by the details.
I decided to clip away the entire swordblade and replace it with a goblin one.
Here’s the green:
I am not unsattisfied with it for a first go at GS-ing. Yes, it could be smoother (especially the lower skirt) and detail could be better but as part of a large unit… It ook me quite a while though and creating a 40 men unit of these will take months. Next to that I would like to make a dozen wolfriders as well and as I am onto it keep on going with a small unit of flying monkeys as well ;). Plans…
Well, as the base for the first 16 of them I’ve ordered a unit of Dark Elf spearmen. their spears are a perfect match and they already have the lower skirt so that would make it a little bit easier.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [19 March 2012 01:25 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/2 "2012-03-19T01:25:29Z")
**Singleton Mosby** :
The first Winkie needed painting and when I held it in my hand I thought it was ok. Still WIP as the skirt needs some blending and I need to do the face. The camera is quite unforgiving however.
I have no idea what colors to use for the banner. Red, obviously but what’s the background color?
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [19 March 2012 02:28 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/3 "2012-03-19T02:28:03Z")
**silentbob27** :
Holy crap! In the US, saying “Winkie guard” has a whole other connotation. I thought to myself, “Why do hobgoblins need armored codpieces? And why is somebody making a thread about it?”
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [19 March 2012 11:47 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/4 "2012-03-19T11:47:47Z")
**Da Crusha** :
> Holy crap! In the US, saying "Winkie guard" has a whole other connotation.
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> **silentbob27**
I thought the same thing x.x.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [20 March 2012 05:42 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/5 "2012-03-20T05:42:02Z")
**RTMaitreya** :
I guess being in Los Angeles, I’m surrounded by “THE BIZ” so it made perfect sense to me. I think it’s an awesome idea, and great execution. I just wish it wasn’t so much work. I’m seriously not into that much work, because I have too many other models to assemble and paint.
RTM
> > Holy crap! In the US, saying “Winkie guard” has a whole other connotation.
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> > **silentbob27**
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> I thought the same thing x.x.
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> **Da Crusha**
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [20 March 2012 08:01 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/6 "2012-03-20T08:01:48Z")
**Singleton Mosby** :
> Holy crap! In the US, saying "Winkie guard" has a whole other connotation. I thought to myself, "Why do hobgoblins need armored codpieces? And why is somebody making a thread about it?"
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> **silentbob27**
Funnie then they actually called these guys like this. Never heard of 'your version' of the winkie guard though ;) but that must be because English is not my first language.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [12 June 2012 01:01 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/7 "2012-06-12T01:01:09Z")
**Yro** :
Ooooook, if this is necroposting then sorry but…
Singleton Mosby, you had my same idea! that’s pretty cool!!!
I loved the idea of winkie-stile hobbos since i started this army five years ago! I sing the winkies’ chant everytime i play/paint/work on CDs!!! and now that I’m ‘bout to start my own miniature range I was thinking of makin’ those models, so I searched the net and… woah, i found this! I hope you don’t mind if I’ll borrow this concept for my future miniatures ^\_\_\_^
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [12 June 2012 03:38 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/archive-hobgoblin-winkie-guards/16305/8 "2012-06-12T03:38:27Z")
**gIL^** :
I don’t care if this is necroposting i missed this and im happy i didn’t
Good work.
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