[Archive] Man-o-war and Battlefleet Gothic

Bloodbeard:

And friend og mine has tasked me with finding the rules for Man-o-war and Battlefleet Gothic.

I have no experience with either of these games and don’t know what supplements were releashed.

I’ve found the man-o-war rulebook, but it contains nothing on the Dawi Zharr, and I know they have a fleet.

Anybody have rules, expansions, etc for the above or know a place to get them please share.

II’m thinking PDFs, I’m not thinking of buying it all from ebay.

Thanks everybody.

Pyro Stick:

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Bloodbeard:

Ill send you a PM

Pyro Stick
Thank you Pyro.

MadHatter:

CD for Manowar can be found in the plaguefleet expansion :hat off

Zuh-Khinie:

If Man-o-War and BFG are something you’ll enjoy playing, I suggest you also search for the warhammer historical: Trafalgar book. It’s a very well designed game (though it does tend to have the odd imbalance, but which GW game doesn’t)?

I enjoy it immensly, more so than MoW or BFG, because it relies less on chance, race or bringing that one game changeing weapon system.

cornixt:

If you like tokens, you’ll love Man O War.

Thommy H:

Battlefleet Gothic is the basically the best game GW ever made. There were some supplemental rules for other fleets (Space Marines, some bigger Ork “ships” for the Armageddon campaign, Eldar Pirates and Dark Eldar, Necrons and both FW and GW flavours of Tau) and a few other bits and pieces, but it’s mostly perfect right out of the box. You can play a satisfying game with just a handful of ships, but because there’s very little book-keeping it scales up to larger engagements equally well.

Bloodbeard:

It’s actually because a friend just inherited two huge moving boxes filled with WW2 ships, submarines and planes all in the same scale. So we need something to play them against each other.

A google search told me the best sea battle game system is General Quarters 3rd edition.

Any experience with nautical board games? I’ll check out the Trafalgar book if I can find it somewhere.

Basically we want something relatively simple.

Zuh-Khinie:

In truth, other than MoW, BFG and Trafalgar, I haven’t played any other ship-to-ship battle games.

If the models you’re using are WW2 miniatures, I don’t think any Age of Sail or a fantasy naval game will really work (because in MoW you have to take the wind into account quite a lot, and in Trafalgar it even dictates who’ll go first in any turn).

MoW might work if you only play dwarfs vs CD… but how boring’ll that become after a few games?

Dystopian Wars might work… haven’t played it, but it’s got motorised ships, planes, … Maybe someone here has some experience with Spartan Games games? I’m sure I’ve seen some pictures of Spartan Games miniatures floating around here on the boards… maybe Tjub knows more (he tends to play quite a few of non GW-systems)?

Pyro Stick:

You could just look into Dreadfleet as well. I guess its meant to be an updated version of man o war but i havent read the rules, but since the box has so few ships i assume it doesnt take much to get a game going.

torn:

The problem with man o war was all the ship cards and tokens everywhere. Other than that it is a really really good game.

I have played bfg but can’t remember the gameplay. I think it came with a short graphic novel that was really good, and the name of the chaos ship killfrenzy has just stuck with me for some reason.

What scale is your ww2 stuff?

ThorAxe:

Dreadfleet is not man o war, pyro. Comes with 8 or 10 ships I suppose you could use for man o war to some extent, the chaos dwarf (really a renegade dwarf, as he descended from regular dwarfs) Black Kraken ship is nice. Really made for pre set scenarios.

Closer to Space Hulk than the others, as everything you will need is in the box, and there aren’t any rules to scale up at all. A fun game regardless.

snowblizz:

It's actually because a friend just inherited two huge moving boxes filled with WW2 ships, submarines and planes all in the same scale. So we need something to play them against each other.

A google search told me the best sea battle game system is General Quarters 3rd edition.

Bloodbeard
In that case you need a WW2 naval wargame rules system. Also, check the rules are for the model scale you have.

BFG I guess could work admittedly, it kinda is a ww2 system, though there are some stuff I think aren't well represented. And you need to figure out what ships are.

Thommy H:

BFG would actually work for WW2 as it’s based on naval warfare - more age of sail than modern, but there’s no wind direction or anything to worry about (except for Eldar whose solar sail ships work the same way). There are also rules for torpedoes and aircraft (attack craft - fighters, bombers and assault boats represented by abstract counters).

However, as others have said, you’d have to write your own ships up and that would be a huge amount of work!

Geist:

Problem with Battle Fleet was they made the necrons way too powerful. Set the defense on and they were unbeatable lil bricks, set the guns on and they fried the crap out of everything.