[Archive] Man o'War

grom:

Does anybody playing in this great game?

What about creating Chaos Dwarf fleet?

Khan!:

Yes! Man O’ War was amazing! I played it when I was just a wee lad so the ships are all ugly and broken now, but it was the game that got me into the hobby! I even have a small Chaos Dwarf fleet - three Death Rollers, a big Earthshaker Barge, and a Great Taurus. Oh Man O’ War, I heart thee! :hat off

wallacer:

Man O’ War is one of those games i’ve always wanted to try but never had the opportunity to.

It is meant to be pretty good.

grom:

U can get one at ebay - but if u dont have hundreads od pounds to spend on it, or dont want to wait - then u can see this page: http://www.spacehulk.co.nr/ :wink:

Xander:

Khan, we’d love to see some pictures of your ships!

Khan!:

As requested, my very small Chaos Dwarf fleet.��Technically it’s not even legal, because you need both a Great Leveller Barge and a Thunderfire Rocket Barge.��In fact, I think in order to have a legal fleet you had to have at least one of every unit type!��The CD fleet was pretty rediculous, lots of crazy firepower and tough, (slow) manouevrable ships, with spectacularly random misfire charts.��And, as I recall, doing enough damage to the big barges caused ammunition to explode and do significant damage to everything in the immediate area.

oboudd:

Nice fleet Khan!

wallacer:

There have been rumours about of Man ‘o’ War being rereleased as companion to the upcoming Mighty Empires.

I for one would be most pleased. MoW is one of those games i’ve always wanted to try but never had the opportunity to.

AGPO:

I tried it once at the classic games stand at Gamesday. The GW staff member there told me the game was discontinued because of the limited scope for profit. The ships I saw were pretty small, I daresay a fleet could be purchased for around �40 in a store. Alot of games which require a limited number of figures are shelved because they make very little money. With Mordheim or Necromunda its easy to just invent new warbands, but with games like MoW and Spacehulk being fairly limited in participants its not suprising they disappeared.

wallacer:

There’s a lot of Man O’War stuff (including Chaos Dwarf fleets) on eBay at the moment, in case anyone is interested.

hal:

Those are pretty nice kahn. How many ships would one need to play man ‘o war?

Also is there anywhere to get the rules online? I ask because it seems like one can get many specialist games’ rules off the GW site.

AGPO:

Man o’ war isn’t a specialist game. Specialist Games is a term used by GW to cover all games that, while they don’t recieve direct support, are kept going by fanatic and arew available by mail order (the last refuge of the true GW) Since Mo’W isn’t supported by GW at all anymore it doesn’t come under this heading

Gilzam:

I agree that they have limited scope for profit but it is these games that pull people into the hobby. My first experiance into the hobby was a game called Space Crusade (the chaos space marine captin is leader of my 40k nurgle horde, the dreads were also awesome models although when you deploy one now-a-days so many GW staff say, is that a GW model?) :~

Space Hulk was awesome two, Man-o-War was cool and Blood Bowl is so much fun.

The differance being is that BB could be expanded aka more profit equals make a specialist game, the others couldn’t, regardless IMO of them being better games (I cant stand the modern day 40k, no tactics there, just GW trying to get people to buy bigger guns to blow up their opponent.) Thankfully Warhammer still involves tactics and thus keeps my intrests.

wallacer:

I agree that they have limited scope for profit but it is these games that pull people into the hobby.

Gilzam
This is a superb point, and for the life of me I just don't understand why GW seem to ignore this fact.

It is board games like MoW, Space Hulk, Space Crusade and Bloodbowl that can and should be getting sold in normal toy stores alongside Monopoly and Risk.

Once people buy these games and discover they like the miniatures then bingo, GW's boxed game/gateway drug is starting to lure new people into the hobby.

Is this flawed reasoning on my part? I'm assuming there must be a reason why GW don't sell these boxed games in normal toy stores to lure new people into the hobby, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what this reason is.

Gilzam:

Is this flawed reasoning on my part?��I'm assuming there must be a reason why GW don't sell these boxed games in normal toy stores to lure new people into the hobby, but for the life of me I cannot figure out what this reason is.
It doesnt bring as much money as the Apocalypse "rip-off" game makes from people already in the hobby (only reason I can think), regardless of how many people they could get into the hobby from selling the smaller board games in stores like you state.

But for the board games I remember finding the rules from Space Crusade much easier to learn than the actual Dark Millenium era of 40k (similar to most board games) but because it was easier to learn I could dive straight in rather than spending countless hours over a rulebook reading and re-reading rules that as a newcomer to un-board games would find rather confusing (not even having to paint up 2000pts worth of models either, or paint them etc.)

It would be much easier to learn the simple rules, get invovled in the hobby and learn practicaly in the stores or from a fellow gamer as I have taught countless times the more complicated rules of the Warhammer pair or LoTR(i wont even say anything bout this game :sick )

Side note: how do you do the Gizam Wrote: thing ive had to use quote because I dont know how to.

wallacer:

To do quotes you can either click the reply button (which will quote the last post automatically)



Or you can just copy and paste the text you want to quote and put [ quote ]��at the start of the text and [ /quote ] at the end of it.

(note that there should not be a space between the square parentheses and the word “quote” I just did that so it wouldn’t actually create a quote)

To quote a specific person it is the same but it will need to be [ quote=

Pyro Stick:

There have been rumours about of Man 'o' War being rereleased as companion to the upcoming Mighty Empires.
I for one would be most pleased. MoW is one of those games i've always wanted to try but never had the opportunity to.

wallacer
If it does get released again i would definately try it out. If it wasnt too much of a rip off. I doubt they would put CD's back in unless they are planning on releasing it after they release CD's.

EDIT: Wow look at this auction: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Man-O-War-collection-rare-items-box-sets-and-more_W0QQitemZ330168279609QQihZ014QQcategoryZ91597QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Also how much is this worth: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OOP-Man-O-War-Chaos-Dwarf-Battle-Fleet-MINT_W0QQitemZ270168989158QQihZ017QQcategoryZ91597QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Willmark:

Count me in the camp of always wanting to try Man O’ War but never getting a chance to do so. I wasn’t suprised it got canceled back in the day though.

Pyro Stick:

Ive been looking through the auctions on ebay and im am definately going to buy a few. It looks like an fun game. Ill have to find the rulebook first…

Canix:

I had a dwarf,elf,orc and empire fleet but gave them to my cousin after teaching him to play definately a great intro game MoW.I would be tempted to buy a CD��fleet they go quite cheap