I figured I would share my thoughts here because there has not been a lot of discussion on armies and games. I hope to get this up and running by the middle of next month and some games in before November.
Sorcerer Lord 190pts base - Lore of Shadow 305 points total
Chaos Dwarf Hero -General 60 points base 114 points total
+45 armor of silver steel +5 Stone of Good Luck +4 Grt Weapon
(Deployed in great weapon warriors)
Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer - Lord of Death 65 120 total points
+35 level 20 +Power Stone
Chaos Dwarf Warriors 449 total points
9pts+2pts for gt weapons x34 +30pts full command +45 pts armor piercing banner
(Deployed 6 wide & 6 ranks)
Chaos Dwarf Warriors 226 total points
9pts+ 3pts for blunderbuss X18 +10 musician
(Deployed 6 wide & 3 ranks)
Hobgoblins 130 total points
2pts x60 +10 musician
(Deployed 10 wide & 6 ranks)
Hobgoblins 30 total points
2pts x15
(Deployed 5 wide & 3 ranks)
Hobgoblins 30 total points
2pts x15
(Deployed 5 wide & 3 ranks)
Orcs 282 total points
5pts +1pt shield x42 +30 full command
(Deployed 6 wide & 7 ranks)
Black Orcs 308 total points
13 pts +1 shield x22 +38 full Command
(Deployed 10 wide & 6 ranks)
Orc Arrow Boys 113 total points
6pts x18 +5 musician
(Deployed 6 wide & 3 ranks- 15 shots)
Bolthrower 30 total Points
Bolthrower 30 total Points
Earthshaker 110 points
Earthshaker 110 points
I am not really sure where to put the sorcerers given the likelihood that they will blow up. I have also thought about the item change of scroll of protection on my lvl 2 that gives 4+ ward saves instead of the power stone to give some saves against the many initiative or die spells.
I wish I could put a banner on the black orcs, but my memory is that only orc big uns can be given a banner in the chaos dwarf army.
These are my initial thoughts and I look forward to feedback and some time to log a few games with it as winter sets in and I can farm less.
ok looks good I like the Lore of death/shadow combo. just so you know the BSB cannot benefit from look out sir in the black orc unit because they are not the same troop type. as far placing the sorcerers I usually keep them in the cd units until they are about to see combat and then I slip them out. I don’t want to leave them in the HG units because a squabble could cost you a magic phase. what do you use the 15 HG units for? I took out my small units of hobgobbos because redirecting is not so effective now, I guess they could be good meat shields.
ok looks good I like the Lore of death/shadow combo. just so you know the BSB cannot benefit from look out sir in the black orc unit because they are not the same troop type. as far placing the sorcerers I usually keep them in the cd units until they are about to see combat and then I slip them out. I don't want to leave them in the HG units because a squabble could cost you a magic phase. what do you use the 15 HG units for? I took out my small units of hobgobbos because redirecting is not so effective now, I guess they could be good meat shields.
Da Crusha
Good to know about the BSB. I might have to go with the chaos dwarf BSB. I kinda hated to see no Bull Centaurs in the list, they are just so unique. It would save 40 points to go that direction. Adding two black orcs in to take his place would still save 12 points.
The wizards might end up in the blunderbuss unit and drop out before combat.
The 15 hobgoblins are either redirectors, flankers, or warmachine guards. With all of the warmachines in 8th, people are going to have to have fast units to take them out and my 30 point speedbumps might be able to by my warmachines, especially the two earthshakers. The reason they are 15 and not 10 is to have a bit more staying power in 8th.
Actually they are the same troop type. Both infantry. Don’t worry about the base size, the slann can get a lookout sir while being in Temple Guard unit.
In the infantry section in the BRB, infantry are described as anthropomorphic and that means resembling human form. bull centaurs do not fit that category. Centigors are Bull centaur’s closest recognized troop type. they follow the rules for cavalry. Hence, the most logical category to fit them in is the cavalry troop type.
I wish I could put a banner on the black orcs, but my memory is that only orc big uns can be given a banner in the chaos dwarf army.
Maul
You're in the clear as far as I know for the Black Orcs. White Dwarf #250 or 252 had a note in there that anything relating to Orc Boyz or Black Orcs from the CD list used their entries in the O&G book from that era instead of the short-hand versions in the Ravening Hordes entry for the CD army. It also specifically stated that Orc Boyz Arrer Boyz could be taken and that one unit of Orc Boyz could be upgraded to Big 'Uns. Referring to an O&G book for notes on these guys Big 'Uns can they take a banner. The Black Orcs get the same treatment - one unit can take a banner. In both cases it's a 50 point max.
Something else that I'd been forgetting for the longest time that Hashut's Blessing and I reminded folks about in our RH update podcast is that Orc Choppas confer +1S to models on foot in the first round of each combat. ... maybe everyone else remembered that, but I totally forgot, so duh!