[Archive] movie

cornixt:

It is set between episode 2 and 3. The animated ones were pretty good, much more subtle references to the film (I’m pretty sure that a young Han Solo is in one of them, but it isn’t “Hey look, there he is, it is him, look!” like the death star references in the prequals). The trailer is now on http://starwars.com/

Thane Godri GoblinSlayer:

That movie will be so awesome.

Deebo:

Well there ya go I thought cgi would be cheaper than actors for sure, what a strange world we live in.

I still cant see how they could lose money on a movie though as it is open to a much larger market rather than being restricted to gamers, LOTR movies did not lose money (as far as I know) and stories of the Warhammer world rival the story of a little ring easily! Hey we had Nagash and Sigmar going at it toe to toe! The father of Undead V’s The Man God! Much better than tossing a ring into a volcano!

furrie:

or a deamon againts a man god and lot of other story’s which could be used, they can even create a new story in the warhammer world

Hashut’s Blessing:

Yes, there are all these stories, but at the end of the day, GW isn’t likely to consider it… It’s just not in their nature, it is a risk and they seem to have foregone thinking about “cause and effect”, so the cause of a film being made, effecting the sales of the models won’t come into their minds.

Godbob and his jolly rogers:

stupid G.W any way they will lose money by making the film but will gain money selling the film but it will give the table top game a better understanding people could see how there herose act in battle how they speak and see how mad the wh world is

AGPO:

I still cant see how they could lose money on a movie though as it is open to a much larger market rather than being restricted to gamers, LOTR movies did not lose money (as far as I know) and stories of the Warhammer world rival the story of a little ring easily! Hey we had Nagash and Sigmar going at it toe to toe! The father of Undead V's The Man God! Much better than tossing a ring into a volcano!

Deebo
Yes but LotR is the second best selling book of all time behind the bible, more or less defined the fantasy genre and is considered even by those who don't enjoy or havent read it as one of the most influential works of fiction ever written. Warhammer is a hobby with a dedicated following but a massive stigma attached by the general public. It is seen (rightly or wrongly) as the preserve of kids, unwashed trenchcoat wearers and men who really need to grow up a bit. Also, whereas LotR has three defined books easily turned into films, the Warhammer background is made up of thirty plus years of scribbles in rulebooks, army books, campaign supplements, White Dwarf, specialist games, the citadel journal, advertisements, the back of boxed sets... well you get the point.

Godbob and his jolly rogers:

APGO has a point but people think WH is like DD with knight’s and dragon’s but it’s not it has history,map’s and so much blood and gore it’ll make a horrer flim look like a kid’s show

Hashut’s Blessing:

the cause of a film being made, effecting the sales of the models won't come into their minds.

Hashut's Blessing
Godbob, did you not read this? They don't care about knock on effects any more. Their business plan has changed from the future, to the present. People don't know what D&D REALLY is. They think of D&D as more like WH than vice versa, I've found at least. Besides, it does have knights and dragons, but so does a lot of our history's myths and legends... (Personal note, horror films aren't meant to be about gore. that's for thrillers...)

At the end of the day, it'd be cool, but where would they start AND it won't happen. If it weren't for their legal annoyances, I'd attempt making one myself...

zorn sabretooth:

and the gw fans are mostly teens so it would be 18 or R so no one would watch it

Godbob and his jolly rogers:

(Personal note, horror films aren't meant to be about gore. that's for thrillers...)

Hashut's Blessing
i thought it was vice versar

Hammerhand:

Currently, the biggest money spinner when making a movie is in the merchandising. Plush toys, books etc. Take the exmple of the Disney Pixar film cars. They make a lot more money selling the toys, the kids bedding and pyjamas, posters, wallpaper, stationary sets, computer games, board games, jigsaws, clothes etc than they did takings at the box office and through their dvds. I’ll put this into my personal context:

I didn’t watch it at the cinema, so that is £0

I bought the DVD for my son (who loves it) £15

So that’s £15 directly from the movie, even If I had taken my boy to the cinema that is still only £25 roughly.

Now, since seeing the film, my boy has:

2 pairs of lightning mcqueen pyjamas: £10

talking shiny mcqueen: £7

collection of matchbox cars at £3 each : £30

Cars foam posters : £5

Remote controlled mcqueen: £20

Lightning & sally race track: £20

Dynaco helicopter toy: £8

Lightning mcqueen torch: £3

Thats £103 from merchandising. But the thing is, it’s his birthday in 2 weeks time, he is going to get another ‘cars’ racetrack from his grandparents, no doubt even more cars related stuff from his aunt’s and uncles, and he has grown out of his cot-bed and is upgrading to a full size single, which he will have a cars bedding set for and probably matching curtains. So the money from merchandising is still coming in. The only reason I will buy the DVD again is if the one he has breaks or gets lost, and I wont be taking him to watch it at the cinema if it ever comes on again, he knows it backwards

And don’t forget, it’s much cheaper to make a few toys and clothes than it is to make a film, plus toys can be priced according to demand where cinema prices are pretty much set in stone.

This is the problem with a GW film. GW will not allow anyone else to use their IP as a cash cow, ever! They most certainly do not want other toy companies making GW toys as a result of a GW film, independant artists with their own interpretations on T shirts and posters and will not allow any producer to have a percentage of models it sells as a result of the film. No ‘serious’ or ‘Big Time’ producer is going to take the project on knowing the only money they will make is from film and dvd sales. The returns don’t justify the outlay. So, unless GW form their own studio, production company etc, it is unlikely that a proper movie will ever be released.

Catch 22.

Although, if there was to be a film, I would like to see the Horus Heresy played out on film, probably as a trilogy.

Hashut’s Blessing:

Godbob, you think it’s meant to be vice versa because the directors have been classifying them incorrectly. Tenseness is horrifying, killing is thrilling. (Not that I get thrills from killing…)

Hammerhand: Exactly right. Producers don’t take on products that won’t be worthwhile, GW won’t make a film department as they don’t care for merchandising (and as I’ve said knock-on effects) and no matter how cool it would be, GW will NOT make a film in any sense of forseeable future. End of story.

You can all say why it is a good thing, but GW won’t listen. GW hasn;t listened to it’s fanbase for a long time. Too long, IMO.

However, I am interested to see what plots from Fantasy and 40K people would like to see in the hypothetical case that a film of each came out. Easiest way to get this rolling is to have a format:

Game: Fantasy/40K

Genre: Action/Sci-fi

Story: Storm of Chaos/The Formation of the Empire

Focus: The big battles/The obtainment of Imperial technology

Why: I think it’s cool/It’d be interesting to see something other than fighting in 40K.

NOTE: The above is an exmaple (Including the twin reply to each question) and not my personal thoughts.

Hope the ball is rolling…

cornixt:

There are video games based on GW games. They aren’t made by GW. Only one step away

Godbob and his jolly rogers:

to make a suggestion i think horus heresy or the storm of chaos would be the best one’s but it’s ture that GW will never listen 'cos they think they’ve got enough customers so why’d they need more TO GET MORE SALES and maybe lower there prices

Deebo:

Warhammer is a hobby with a dedicated following but a massive stigma attached by the general public. It is seen (rightly or wrongly) as the preserve of kids, unwashed trenchcoat wearers and men who really need to grow up a bit.

AGPO
Good point on the lotr, but with this part I would have to dissagree on personal experience as anyone that I know that is not into gaming has no idea what Warhammer is, I have lost count the ammount of times I have had to sit and explain to people what it is.

Hammerhand also has a rather strong point about the merch that I completely overlooked, but then I looked about my room and noticed some stuff that I have that is not gaming stuff but still warhammer.. e.g. A inflatable hammer from the 25th anniversary, posters and a gotrek bust... so in a way GW has already done some limited merch things and I know there are other examples out there, I know this might not mean too much but optimistically IF THEY (I agree unlikely) wanted to, they could do some sort of merch as it seems they have dabbled in it already just based on the games.

Cornixt, very interesting and very true, they do make video games and they do not make them themselves! hmmmm

And last but not least if there was a movie or seires of, I would love to see the Slayer series, which they already have books for which are awesome in my opinion.
Another good one with books written already would be the Von Carstien story! Almost evryone loves a good vampire story!