On the GW community site, I can’t find the exact link any more, where it talks about the sisters of battle plastics and the new fishmen, it very clearly says about the Sisters that they responded to customer demand.
All the comments people have made about them, they openly said they’d listened to the comments and were doing something about it.
Which begs the obvious question of whether we can organise a concerted effort to try finally to get a full Chaos Dwarf range made. By making loads of comments on their site
Petition, emailing, annual survey, facebook? Either way I support the idea. It sucks that we’re stuck with ebay and forge world resin. Also, I had no idea so many people cared about sisters, do you think there are as many CD fans?
Interesting proposal! Although Sisters of Battle in plastic was bound to happen anyway in a time when Adeptus Mechanicus and Genestealer Cults return in plastic, requests or no requests.
First, for Chaos Dwarf collectors who are also Age of Sigmar fans it is obviously of interest to see their evil midget race be given a spin in this setting.
Secondly, there are reasons to do this even for many Chaos Dwarf collectors who are disinterested or even hostile to Age of Sigmar. Please hear me out if you are skeptical to Grimstonefire’s idea:
Herby is right, a Chaos Dwarf AoS range produced by Games Workshop would most likely have little in common with what has gone before. Age of Sigmar designs are deliberately off from generic, popular and archetypical classic fantasy designs (i.e. Warhammer Fantasy), for the purposes of carving out a distinct IP. A wild, weird new magitech world, so to speak, where ocean Elves and steampunk Dwarfs are possible. An arena for innovative takes, mad, bland or majestic, your mileage may vary and personal taste will decide how it is judged.
This means that we have no idea whatsoever how AoS Chaos Dwarfs might turn out if designed from the ground up by Games Workshop. There might be steampunk miner stuff, or a heavy dose of Daemonic possession, or clockwork robot Dwarfs, or cyborgs, or lava Dwarfs, or crystalline rock Dwarfs, or Chaos Dwarfs ironically enslaved by Orcs or something else entirely:
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For fans of the Old World who are not interested in Age of Sigmar, this means that a weird new type of Chaos Dwarf army is at best a source of some interesting bases for conversions, or could even provide some random miniatures that are directly useful for WHFB style Chaos Dwarfs (e.g. some kind of Daemonically possessed AoS CD berzerker with looks deemed acceptable, or some lava golem). At worst, it’s just a dud and no money spent. Meaning such collectors might as well ask GW for AoS CDs and see if any good bits and pieces comes out of it. New AoS CDs are likely to be indirectly useful to Old World CD collectors. After all, Chaos Dwarfs have always been weird anyway, and CD collectors are not unlikely to cannibalize odd models for conversions!
However, there is one hurdle here for CD collectors not interested in Age of Sigmar takes: Forgeworld still seem to be the caretakers of everything Chaos Dwarf, and they did release Shar’tor and a new sorcerer model. Some rumours floated around of Hobgoblins with a Labyrinth look, though we’ve seen nothing materialize.
For all we’ve seen so far, Forgeworld has decided to stick close to the Old World Chaos Dwarf aesthetics and only complement their existing Legion of Azgorh range. New Forgeworld Chaos Dwarfs are likely to be directly useful for Old World Chaos Dwarf collectors:
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As such, asking Games Workshop to reimagine the evil dwarf niche for Age of Sigmar could unintentionally also be asking them to pull the carpet from under Forgeworl’d feet. GW AoS CDs might mean no more FW CDs. Who knows?
Those CD collectors who are disinterested in Age of Sigmar should consider whether to ask for more Forgeworld CDs (bound to be closer to Warhammer Fantasy looks), or whether to ask Games Workshop for a whole new faction (full AoS style). One could also ask for both, and cross fingers for more new stuff of everything. Though the niche isn’t large.
And as an addendum, whatever is asked of the above, an Old World fan might also want to add a line to remind GW that they want to see classic Warhammer Fantasy return with new releases.
So there are reasons both for AoS fans and those who are not fans of AoS to ask for AoS Chaos Dwarfs from Games Workshop. There might also be reasons for non-AoS fans to ask for more resin from Forgeworld instead. Or ask for both.
Not advocating one way or the other here, just pointing out the lay of the land.
Oh, also: Asking Games Workshop for a plastic Chaos Dwarf-Hobgoblin Blood Bowl kit is a must, speaking of requests. We should all ask them to treat our evil shorties with plastic for fantasy football, whether or not we ask for an army.
That is more likely to happen than a whole new plastic range, and would be highly useful for conversions off the pitch! Especially if both hat and mask builds were included.
I might be the minority but i remember what it was like to have no book, no models and no sign of anything for a decade, so the fact we have rules and models is amazing.
I would petition for a Battletome Legion of Azhgorh.
We could make one with the current rules print one and sent GW to show them how easy it would be with the current line of minis.
More models and more rules = more choice. As I see it, FW and GW are both operating in a way treating each faction release as profitable or not. So legion of azgorh and GW AoS could both sell at the same time.
Far simpler to relegate the LoA rules set to history and combine the models into a single army. But still, after all these years GW seem reluctant to do that. Even with space marines.
Yes. Well, long story short my entire cd army was packed away out of reach for the last year, but it will all be dusted off and put in a display cabinet around June. So no excuses then!
I think it is definetly worth a shot. Yes they may change the aesthetic but it is not like that is new to cds. We went from mini WoC to scale armour big hats and tusks with our own god ans bull centaurs to a more steampunk aesrhetic with iron daemons etc. T9A has slayer beserker types in disciples of Lugar ( I think), KoW has obsidian golems and gargoyles. Hey we are a broad evil temple. You alao know that any good FW/GW aesthetic models will be found a use for on T9A and other companies will look to �?~homages�?T of them. As I see it we have nothing to lose.
1.) I’d love to see official GW support for a Warhammer Fantasy Chaos Dwarf army or any Warhammer Fantasy army, but official internal statement is that AoS is more successfull than Warhammer Fantasy ever has been, so won’t gonna happen. Even Forge World is considering to drop the Chaos Dwarf range due to poor demand (in Forge World dimensions, so not worth considering for GW main).
2.) The basis for AoS is that due to a false perception of toy copyrights, every new AoS army has to look completely different to what people expect them to look. If everyone has a vision of how a Fantasy elf army has to look (and what he would buy), then GW has to do … sea elves riding on phallus mounts. If everyone would expect dwarfs to be grumpy nordic warriors, GW has to do … squats with laser rifles and airships. Making new armies not fit old armies in any way is intended and the basis and foundation of AoS design. So if they decided to make a 4th AoS dwarf faction, you probably wouldn’t like the result and it would be something completely different to previous models. And the Fyreslayers are probably intended as the Chaos Dwarfs of AoS.
3.) Blood Bowl is a bubble of the old Warhammer universe, preserved by a Forge World specialist team. Getting a plastic Chaos Dwarf team is something, we might get in a few years or even might demand as a community. But then again, the market is flooded with good Chaos Dwarf BB teams by small companies.
The CDs were weird since the start. The moment, if it comes, where they decide to take on them, they would not have the problems they have to face with the archetypes they are dealing with on other armies. Not as many, at the very least. They always were a more fantasy take on Dwarfs, even if heavily inspired by Persian/Mesopotamic history.
We can try asking for them, en masse, without worrying that much about them being very different from the classic ones. Only problem is that now the line for CDs is FW exclusive and i doubt they will do plastic kits. Or return to a more classical take on them.
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