[Archive] Of breeding and gaping holes in the hobby

Nicodemus:

Females aren’t really addressed in Chaos Dwarf fluff. I know Baggronor is swinging down this route, and I have no problems with Chaos Dwarf females, per se (I still have plans to do a themed unit of all Chaos Dwarf females at some point down the road), I just thought it might be fitting if the females didn’t or couldn’t reproduce for what ever reason… after that idea, however, I was stuck with where Chaos Dwarfs would actually come from.

Saw this model on Tuesday and thought, holy crap!! Now I know how my Chaos Dwarfs reproduce… I was going to get rid of the humanoid females and just have this daemonic breeding machine inseminate her/itself…



For the Chaos Dwarfs this would end up being something that sits down in the bowels of the earth, never spoke of by Chaos Dwarfs to outsiders and the penalty for even a slave to look upon it would be excruciating torture and death.

Sadly it sold out in less than 24 hours as they were crazy enough to only make 100 of them!!! Why oh why! I now wait patiently for news of a re-release x.x

~N

PS On a slightly related note, I think it’s sad that mature content is so totally under represented (breast(s), areola and nipple of the Greater Daemon of Slaanesh (and the Forge World one), the odd Daemonette aside).  What I’d like to see is some H.R. Giger infusion into some armies, and not just the wink that a few 40K models get.  I mean, search as I might for “Warhammer + phallus” or "warhammer + " what ever else you can think of… I can’t find anything good out there.

Zanko:

Not bad for humans/ordinary demons but imo not the “right” thing for Chaos Dwarfs! :~

Cannot explain it better - just not dwarfish enough … but maybe your interpretation might disabuse me!

But nonetheless cool and extraordinary model!

                     :hashut

cornixt:

“Gaping holes” indeed. CDO has now been shifted a few thousand places up the most common internet searches.

GW’s intentional vagueness on any reproduction certainly leaves room for all kinds of wierd and wonderful ideas, including a ‘queen’ like that.

It’s certainly an interesting model, although not really good for CDs. Lacks anything bull, not dwarf enough, and I don’t even want to know about that tail!

clam:

Yeah, I saw that on Twitter the other day. Nice sculpt - but nothing I would ever consider throwing my money at.

snowblizz:

I suggest looking at the link for the full picture of that horror. :~:o:D

I honestly don’t know what to think about it.

Thommy H:

What an unpleasant miniature. And an unpleasant concept to go with it too. Double whammy! Good job…

Nicodemus:

Not bad for humans/ordinary demons but imo not the "right" thing for Chaos Dwarfs! :~

Cannot explain it better - just not dwarfish enough ... but maybe your interpretation might disabuse me!

Zanko
I agree that the look isn't quite right. It's a weird idea anyway to stick something like this into a group of Chaos Dwarf models and make it fit. I'd change the face on the main model, none of the humans would be there and there'd need to be little horns and spikes growing out of the skin. I also imagine them having this thing chained down and restrained to be in that one spot, but the whole area around it would be setup like an altar at a temple with Bull Centaurs holding ceremonial weapons, lots of grand banners and gold & brass plated floors, and maybe some slaves who have had their eyes put out and are chained to be in the room as well.

What a Chaos Dwarf baby would look like is another matter. Squat and stumpy, with a bad temper, biting slave fingers and things like that ;)

Grimstonefire:

To each their own.  I think it’s quite a silly model.  Well sculpted, but silly.

As a dwarf woman you’d need to put a beard on it. :smiley: (LoTR joke).  That model sold out a couple of days after the launch btw.

I’m guessing fluffwise the CD reproduction is exactly the same as for dwarf (a regular birth).

snowblizz:

To each their own.  I think it's quite a silly model.  Well sculpted, but silly.

As a dwarf woman you'd need to put a beard on it. :D (LoTR joke).  That model sold out a couple of days after the launch btw.

Grimstonefire
Proving once again you just can't go wrong with putting more breasts on a miniature. From a sales perspective anyway.

Tarrakk Blackhand:

Proving once again you just can't go wrong with putting more breasts on a miniature.

snowblizz
Hmmm...maybe I should do that for the next GH? I might actually win the damned thing! :D

Bassman:

No, Chaos Dwarfs do not mix with such an abomination! We are not Slaneesh followers! Let it to lesser humans :wink:

By the way, great stuff in that website! :smiley:

Anybody has infos about their project?

Khan!:

What an unpleasant miniature. And an unpleasant concept to go with it too. Double whammy! Good job...

Thommy H
Agreed. Why can't Chaos Dwarf women just be women? Except dwarfish.

Androcentrism is a big problem in the Warhammer setting, for sure. Writing out the women and replacing them with tentacle monsters is significantly more of a problem than just not sculpting any female soldier models.

Thommy H:

Exactly. Let’s not explain casual sexism born of ignorance with an idea as twisted and worrying as this. There’s nothing wrong with art exploring dark corners of the human psyche, but there’s a time and a place for this, and games of toy soldiers are not it.

Sorry, I don’t want to turn this into a gender politics debate or anything but…ugh…no…not in my fluff, thanks.

Ancient History:

Chaos Dwarf women are feared as one of the few species that can give birth to something with hooves.

snowblizz:

Proving once again you just can't go wrong with putting more breasts on a miniature.

snowblizz
Hmmm...maybe I should do that for the next GH? I might actually win the damned thing! :D


Tarrakk Blackhand
I suspect it has a way better chance to work than we'd like to admit.

Baggronor:

:o

Ew. That’s just gross. Wonderfully sculpted, but ew. And tentacle porn? Really? :wink:

Nicodemus:

To each their own. I think it's quite a silly model. Well sculpted, but silly.

grimstonefire
Well I'm not sure silly would be quite the right word. Maybe that really is what you mean, but silly would be more along the lines of the Hello Kitty 40K stuff...
What an unpleasant miniature. And an unpleasant concept to go with it too. Double whammy! Good job...

Thommy H
Agreed. Why can't Chaos Dwarf women just be women? Except dwarfish.

Androcentrism is a big problem in the Warhammer setting, for sure. Writing out the women and replacing them with tentacle monsters is significantly more of a problem than just not sculpting any female soldier models.


Khan!
I'm by no means suggesting the women be written out. They'd be warriors right along side the men, and the breeding & raising of off-spring would be left to other devices.
Exactly. Let's not explain casual sexism born of ignorance with an idea as twisted and worrying as this. There's nothing wrong with art exploring dark corners of the human psyche, but there's a time and a place for this, and games of toy soldiers are not it.

Sorry, I don't want to turn this into a gender politics debate or anything but...ugh...no...not in my fluff, thanks.

Thommy H
No, Chaos Dwarfs do not mix with such an abomination! We are not Slaneesh followers! Let it to lesser humans

bassman
I'm honestly surprised so many people are so vehemently opposed to this idea. By and large the majority of CDO members seem to have no problem with Chaos Dwarfs enslaving Daemons for all manner of things, including powering war machines. So why the heck couldn't an insane Chaos Dwarf Forge Master enslave a greater Daemon of Slaanesh and corrupt her to churning out an off shoot of Chaos Dwarfs??

Just my take on it :P
~N

nitroglysarine:

That is both kinda beautiful and horrific.

Nice to see some weirder models.

but man…

Minos:

Very disgusting mini. Very well scupted, for sure, but an unpleasently weird one. I’m not against ‘realism’ in scupting. I love the previous naked daemonettes, and I think it’s silly to systematically hide breasts or, hem, other vital parts of anatomy…

But as I really don’t like Nurgle minis, I hate this one which is more like a 70s porn concept than a playable mini.

Loki:

very interesting model, not something i would buy but very sculpted