Admiral:
Warhammer Forge is, as we all know, in fallow whilst the Horus Heresy gold rush is on. This will probably be the case for a few years still. Let’s be sensible about this.
After this 30k heyday Warhammer Forge is bound to be revived, because they’d miss out on an obvious and big market otherwise. We know that Warhammer Forge was set up after much and long pressure from GW to release more WHFB stuff (Forgeworld is a 40k hardcore bastion after all), and they even hired new sculptors for the job.
We also know that Chaos Dwarfs have become Forgeworld’s own army, so they’re bound to return to them eventually with an expanded army list, new models and shiny background. Especially since CDs have war machines and vehicles, and FW love that stuff.
Fingers crossed for Hellcannon style miniatures.
This mean a long wait for new releases. It would be foolish to ask about schedules, but not foolish to encourage FW a bit to show ongoing interest in their profitable Chaos Dwarf range.
Be patient is my advice about it all. See the good side of it.
The FW sculptors responsible for the Chaos Dwarf range were mostly new to the job when they worked on it. They did a great job in my eyes, but it could have been even better. The sculptors’ involvement in the 30k madness will allow their skill and creativity to be sharpened further. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next wave of Chaos Dwarf releases are better than the current range.
So chins up!
Are there reasons for a gloomier outlook? Remember that the release nature of all GW armies is a big wave or three, and then silence until it’s their time in the update cycle again.
snowblizz:
Warhammer Forge is, as we all know, in fallow whilst the Horus Heresy gold rush is on.
After this 30k heyday Warhammer Forge is bound to be revived,
so they're bound to return to them eventually with an expanded army list,
Are there reasons for a gloomier outlook?
Admiral
You sir, are an incorrigible optimist. Yes there is reason for a gloomier outlook. And it comes from my belief that GW is milking the market more than innovating and growing it.
Admiral:
You sir, are an incorrigible optimist. Yes there is reason for a gloomier outlook. And it comes from my belief that GW is milking the market more than innovating and growing it.
snowblizz
Which eventually leads to decline if that is the case.
Still, there's also a Chaos Dwarf niche market to milk for GW's daugther company FW. Which could mean more goodies for us in the future just like new shinies arrive for GW's armies as they milk them. This is not unlikely at all.
Thanks, I am an eternal optimist! :hat off
Bitterman:
Besides my description in the other thread of Edgar’s response at the Horus Heresy Weekender, when I asked if we could expect to see more Bull Centaur weapon variants (laughter then “no”); in one of the seminars someone said “I’m 50, will I live to see the end of the HH books from Forge World?” and the answer was basically: "errmmmmmmmm… probably not…"
They’re not stopping HH any time soon. I’m talking years… maybe decades. Even if they do stop HH, “vanilla” 40K is still a bigger priority for them than Warhammer in general or Chaos Dwarfs specifically. If Warhammer is to be worthwhile for them (which I personally wish it was and hope it one day will be - and believe it could be if they’d done it differently to what they actually did), it needs to be worthwhile regardless of HH or 40K or anything else. And they seem to have decided it isn’t. Even if/when the HH goldmine runs dry, if Warhammer is only a tin mine (not even silver!) they still won’t work it.
Yes, that was a horribly tortured analogy. I hope my point is clear. Waiting for HH to finish will be a very, very long wait, and it’s not at all clear that CD would be anywhere on the horizon even if HH finished tomorrow.
MadHatter:
I like how you think Admiral, I’m not into FW personally (Seriously, how are those gigantic BC supposed to guard a temple in a city?) but I am concerned about getting a real armylist.
I did like the Tamurkhan alot, CD culture,fluff and history out the window, but the presentation and quality. I might be a poor man but I sure prefer to have less high quality items than alot of cheap rubbish.
A pure CD armybook with slavelists and more machinery for 9th bound thusly with color, art, stories, culture etc. is something I would save up for and wouldn’t mind paying £200 for… I consider every cent spent on being able to gloat at the lesser races worth paying and I believe FW should focus on doing just that.
Thommy H:
We managed for over a decade with nothing but OOP miniatures, the Hellcannon and the occasional fluff snippet to keep us going. That was the period during which this community created Word of Hashut, several army books, loads of incredible art, inventive conversions and at least one commercial miniature range.
So I’m not too worried about Warhammer Forge dying.
torn:
Well said thommy, they need us a lot more than we need them.
Admiral:
We’ll see what happens with Warhammer Forge. My bets are on revival in a few years time, and then on a return to Chaos Dwarfs eventually after that.
If not. As Thommy said the community can go on without much official support at all. In fact it would probably be even stronger than the last decade thanks to the influx of models, styles, fluff and players brought by Tamurkhan. Some of us have even been contaminated by the older 4th edition big hat’s charm. 
(Seriously, how are those gigantic BC supposed to guard a temple in a city?)
MadHatter
It’s a big temple in a big city. They figured they needed big guards. :cheers
Agreed about the quality. If enough people want it, it seem reasonable for FW to make a more fully-fledged army list. That’s a logical destination for the range.
MadHatter:
It's a big temple in a big city. They figured they needed big guards. :cheers
Agreed about the quality. If enough people want it, it seem reasonable for FW to make a more fully-fledged army list. That's a logical destination for the range.
Admiral
Haha that must be it! Seriously, it's a ziggurat... that means stairs, not slaves and definately not tiny dwarfs would be able to climb stairs made for those enormous FW BC and small stairs for small dwarfs will be like a slide for those gigantic beings. I'll try to believe that the Zharr-Naggrund BC are smaller and that the Dark Fortress ones are some abnormal mutation for now, lest I go insane with seeing merry BC sliding about our great capital.
cornixt:
The community more than held its own for a long time, I’m pretty sure it will be able to handle a few more years with nothing new from GW or FW - there are quite a few more alternative models now too.
Geist:
Guys, you are pushing this in the wrong direction totally. Instead of hoping that the crack heads over at ForgeWorld will return back to the Dawi zari, we should instead be pushing for GW to take them back. GW as bad as they are at getting stuff done have shown on the fantasy side they can balance books. To me that means we should be trying harder to get GW to take the army back and make it into the 15th army. GW will at least make the point costs make sense, instead of ForgeWorlds maddness.
MadHatter:
Guys, you are pushing this in the wrong direction totally. Instead of hoping that the crack heads over at ForgeWorld will return back to the Dawi zari, we should instead be pushing for GW to take them back. GW as bad as they are at getting stuff done have shown on the fantasy side they can balance books. To me that means we should be trying harder to get GW to take the army back and make it into the 15th army. GW will at least make the point costs make sense, instead of ForgeWorlds maddness.
Geist
This is kind of a romantic story actually, the abandoned race that went on lawless and alone getting picked up and becoming the unique, expensive, modern and exotic legal armychoice. When I've mentioned I'm collecting Chaos Dwarfs other players go "Ooooh".
Should the Princess go back to the abusive and neglecting douchebag that just took her money and threw her out like trash (on the street, in the cold september rain and spat on her) or stay with the clumsy but kind businessman who doesn't really get her yet but that took her in and atleast tries his best to pick her up, dressing her with fancy new miniatures, a place in tournaments and love? Making her not his 15th fantasy-army wife but his sole fantasy-army love?
I might have had some whisky tonight but dammit, if the Princess should ever break up with FW then I hope she goes to Thommy H., she's had enough abuse as it is and deserves to be happy ever after.
Admiral:
No, Games Workshop is sadly not the solution for a Chaos Dwarf army. Just look at how their amount of boxed kits grew until they (wisely or not) pulled Thunderers, Glader Riders and a slew of other plastic kits from the shelves of independent stores. Yet another Warhammer army with yet more boxes in their WHFB range would be stretching it taut. Chaos Dwarfs were the first to go last time around, the same could easily happen again if the rumours about dropping Bretonnia had any grain of truth in them at all.
The only good solution with GW would be to include CDs as mercenaries in WoC and then release one or two cool plastic kits. This is certain. They would make a good little contingent with the existing Hellcannon and add some shooting power to Warriors of Chaos if one wished for that kind of playstyle.
Thommy H:
They didn’t pull those boxes, just removed them from the list of required products independents have to stock.
Admiral:
Okey, independents must have wanted to be rid of some boxes in the first place, then, since my mates have found it impossible to buy Glade Riders and a few other kits. This is true even for webshops. It made me think it was an obligatory removal. 
Thommy H:
I think that rumour was debunked on Warseer. Anything in a current army book isn’t going anywhere, frankly. I think GW could sustain as many armies as they choose to (look at the way 40K ones are proliferating right now) but there has to be a strong business case for it. A proper GW Chaos Dwarf army would need to be started from scratch and that’s a big investment - at least two plastic core kits (which could dual build to specials), a centrepiece monster or war machine, several character clampacks… Already it’s a bigger release than every recent army and that’s not even accounting for various oddballs like Wolf Riders or Bull Centaurs.
The same holds true for FW too. What makes them money is endless variations on Space Marines. They can spin their wheels making variant shoulder pads and boltguns forever and a certain kind of 40K player will just eat them up. Why invest in anything else?
Chaos Dwarfs have always been niche, and there’s a cycle with them. They make a splash, they snare fans, they go away. They’re not core GW IP. As I said though, first time around we got a full army and a book, then nothing but the Hellcannon for ten years. There’s a lot more to build on this time around.
Roark:
To be honest, all I’m looking for from GW/WF/FW is a full army list and army book. I can’t see anyone improving on Rozmax’s rank and file. They capture my imagination perfectly. Except for the Destroyer, the rest is all pretty much done, and done well.