Kera foehunter:
since reaper lower the prices !! do you think gw will
since the metals and tin is less than 1/2 it was last year and the same with oil prices down to 43.00 a barrow from sept 133.00 a barrow for oil
Thommy H:
Nope.
GW has shown before that they don’t believe market forces apply to their products. They believe what they sell is a luxury item and that people will pay whatever it costs to buy them. Their business model assumes absolute brand loyalty, as insane as that may sound, and they constantly increase prices above the rate of inflation, regardless of circumstances. Just the way it is.
Kera foehunter:
well we will see even gw remebers the early 80 !!
GRNDL:
They do occasionally adjust. I’ve seen two price reductions within Canada in the last few years. One was because of the falling US dollar compared to the Cdn dollar. It took awhile for that to happen though and in the meantime Canadian retailers were selling kits at US prices because it was fairer to Canadian customers. And there was a price reduction over several kits within the last few months, IIRC. Its tough to say really, I get a lot of good deals from my FLGS.
Thommy H:
That’s not GW altering their prices though - that’s just bringing things into line because of fluctuations in the exchange rate. Here in the UK, where GW is based, they’ve been steadily increasing prices for years.
Hrothgar Goldgreed:
Very simple; no. Never.
GRNDL:
@Thommy H
Well, when you get a list of prices changed by GW on a document sent to you by GW (as in sent to retailers), regardless of the reasons they can or have adjusted the prices, they are changed by GW… And in these two cases, lowered.
Grimstonefire:
I think there is a small chance GW will consider this if their sales slump over the summer. But in the mean time, not a chance.
I hate it when companies profiteer out of inflated commodity prices. That’s what hedging is for.
Normally with any other reasonable company I might suggest writing to them en masse, but GW has a bin for all incoming post.
Kera foehunter:
Well they better wake up !! Ral partha was that way the best figures in there time in the 80
then they fell to due to the point of no one buying
you can’t have profits when no one buys !!
unless Gw puts out chaos dwarfs or dow i probably not buy anything else this year!!
snowblizz:
Well they better wake up !! Ral partha was that way the best figures in there time in the 80Then again you are definitely not GW's core demographic. Or at least what they *think* is their core demographic.
then they fell to due to the point of no one buying
you can't have profits when no one buys !!
unless Gw puts out chaos dwarfs or dow i probably not buy anything else this year!!
Kera foehunter
GW is the only company I know of that does not suffer from price erosion in their products. The only factor obsoleting their products are themselves.
The problem with comparing GW to say Ral Parha is that GW creates rules and support for their line of miniatures to make it more appealing / lock us into only buying them. They don't operate in quite the same market as anyone else. I don't understand how, but it all boils down the the fact that we are all just suckers for good GW minis.
With regards to hedging. GW most likely have hedged their rawmaterial cost. Unfortunately hedging doesn't mean you'll always get it cheaper, it means than in a situation like now you are likely paying higher than market prices. That's what has happened to several transportation companies who hedged large parts of their oil/fuel purchases for last year, this year and a bit into next year I presume.
Anyway to a company like GW raw material cost isn't the biggest factor but all other things such as salaries for their organisation.
wallacer:
GW hasn’t exactly been hauling in the profits recently, so even if the case could be made for a price decrease they won’t do it.
Allanp:
as much as i would love them for lowering their prices i cannot see it happening for a very long time if at all.
i spose its just the usualy thing of brand and propaganda (maybe extreme but it is basically that)
without badmouthing other companies GW have almost brainwashed us to think that their minis are the only ones to buy. until finding you guys and your expert conversions i was the same. but now i am trying to see what i can do myself.
the only way that they are goin to lower prices is if their sales fall dramaticaly. but when aimed at a younger audience (for 40k mainly) they are more than likely to buy GW minis through convenience. such is society at the moment. all technological upgrades are based around convenience now :@
This_Is_My_Boomstick!!:
GW hasn't exactly been hauling in the profits recently, so even if the case could be made for a price decrease they won't do it.Unfortunetly GW have not made a good profit for many a year.
wallacer
Its unlikely that GW will drop thier prices any time soon, they could be doing a lot of things to make extra profits like make a conversion kit for the space marines/Chaos space marines so they can be used with a supliment book for a Warhammer 30k type expansion to cash in on the HH books. (they have completely dismissed this idea though)
From my experience around the local area here more people than ever are leaving GW games and are going to others like Privateer Press or even giving up all together. In the last 2 years the local club has gone from nearly 50 people per week down to about 12 and 4 of them play PP games - they did play GW but have stopped - despite doing everything we can to retain members.
Thommy H:
@Thommy HYeah, but what I'm saying is that tweaking prices in Canada to deal with exchange rates isn't the same as lowering prices overall - it's only in one country, and because of a unique situation. The prices everywhere else weren't affected.
Well, when you get a list of prices changed by GW on a document sent to you by GW (as in sent to retailers), regardless of the reasons they can or have adjusted the prices, they are changed by GW... And in these two cases, lowered.
GRNDL
Willmark:
GW is at an interesting crossroads, their competition is themselves and MMORPGs.I firmly believe that one of the reasons that 7th edition is more like 5th edition is due two factors: 1) the even edition curse where they scale the even editions back too much. 2) greater increase for descretionary dollars.
Despite this could they fail? Sure can. The end of GW isn’t nessecarily a bad thing either to me. Perhaps getting some gamers back in countrol rather then the bean counters would be a good thing.
Tarrakk Blackhand:
They do occasionally adjust. I've seen two price reductions within Canada in the last few years. One was because of the falling US dollar compared to the Cdn dollar. It took awhile for that to happen though and in the meantime Canadian retailers were selling kits at US prices because it was fairer to Canadian customers. And there was a price reduction over several kits within the last few months, IIRC. Its tough to say really, I get a lot of good deals from my FLGS.My hobby shop is known as a "Private Retailer" for GW. Just last year, I got a phonecall from GW USA telling me that GW Canada is now handled by GW USA and that they lowered the prices because Canada wasn't taking advantage of the stronger dollar.
Grndl
Therefore, they dropped the prices of the Battallion Boxes from $130.00 CDN to $105. This changed a lot of things because before this, I use to sell every one of the Battallion boxes for $130 except for the Dwarf one which was $110.
I just wish they'd make the gamming pieces the same prices as the model cars - $15-17 a box with larger models, like Kenworths, costing $30.
Kera foehunter:
well we will see !! the presser on!!
Loki:
GW will never lower the core prices on any products, i have been collecting since 97 and have never known them to go down only up, i even remember once a very long time ago that GW had a sale at my local store this must have been 98 the only time i have seen such a thing happen, it will not happen again of that i am sure, its a shame as it would be nice for them to have at least some price reductions at least once to reward the loyal customer base that they have rather than squeezing more out of us
Willmark:
Last thing I bought from them was the dwarf battlion set at Gamesday 2008 which I got $50 off the retail price. I wouldn’t have bought it any other way. In other words I wasn’t looking to buy anything but the price made it worthwhile even if I didn’t need it.
GW is fooling themselves if they think their business model will sustain itself indefinately. Basically they punish (“higher prices”) those that are already in the hobby.
I have no qualms abouting buying from GW, I’m not too worried about the deferences in. Terms of the prices. What keeps me and will continue to keep me on the purchasing sideline is their stance on Chaos Dwarfs; fix that GW and I’ll buy. Don’t, and expect to see more of the same: that is to say nothing from me in terms of dollars.
Tarrakk Blackhand:
OUCH Wallacer! I’m just glad I can buy mine at wholesale! 
(It’s still overpriced, even at that!)