# Opinions on rescaling Bully Centaurs š
**URL:** https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554
**Category:** Hobby Ideas & Advice
**Created:** [31 March 2024 19:50 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554 "2024-03-31T19:50:43Z")
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [31 March 2024 19:50 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/1 "2024-03-31T19:50:43Z")
Hey yāall. Iām amping up to order a second batch of 3d printed models for my burgeoning chaos dwarf army ([TOW Fire Dwarfs / Blanchitsu](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/tow-fire-dwarfs-blanchitsu/26272))
Among other things, Iām fixing to get a handful of Bull centaurs. These will be original sculpts and a single Fabelzel one to represent a Tauāruk. These sculpts are however created for the 25x50mm bases in mind, and if youāve seen it, you know that they look lost on the 50x75 bases that are required for TOW.
That being the case, Iām looking into rescaling them, so they fit the bases better. Apologies to GW oldhammer purists if you feel itās an affront to the OG sculpts š
So hereās how they look with no rescaling:
ā Quite lost on the bases, similar size to the infantryman.
Scaled to 140%:
ā Filling out the bases more, but looking a bit tall. Sacrilegous, I know, but the hats get a bit too tall on them, imo š¬ Also, the axe on the OG bulltaur looks a bit stretched.
Last one, scaled to 140% in width and breadth, but standard size in height:
I like this version. They fill out the base, the hats arenāt too tall (if a bit squished, tbf), and the great axe looks proportional.
Any ideas how to do this better? Comments or preferences on the different versions? Iād love to hear your thoughts š
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### Author:  [@cornixt](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/cornixt)
#### Post date: [31 March 2024 23:23 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/2 "2024-03-31T23:23:41Z")
The 140% scale all over looks best to me. I think you might be able to get away with 130% if you are worried about them being too big.
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### Author:  [@Drexxl](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Drexxl)
#### Post date: [1 April 2024 09:18 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/3 "2024-04-01T09:18:57Z")
I just had my friend do 150% and I found that to work perfectly. 140 also looks great
They will end up very tall regardless, and so does the FW ones
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [1 April 2024 10:07 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/4 "2024-04-01T10:07:04Z")
I think it was you who gave me the idea, as a matter of fact, so thanks for that š
Them ending up very tall is why I dabbled in the squished upscaling. I subsequently tried 150% in width and 115% in height, I think that gave the impression of a larger model, dwarfen in proportion, that didnāt look too squished.
The FW ones are very different in proportion, I think, and are bulky as all hell right out of the box. The OG ones are quite slim in comparison.
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### Author:  [@Lordofchaos](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Lordofchaos)
#### Post date: [15 May 2024 02:35 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/5 "2024-05-15T02:35:19Z")
> [@Vacationist](#):
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> ā Quite lost on the bases, similar size to the infantryman.
Sorry, in my humbled opinion.
I think you have keep them in scale, With the foot trooper.
Just boost up the base height with terrain features.
Rocks, shale slabs, lava rock, dead catsā¦ ect.
Whaaat?
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [15 May 2024 05:30 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/6 "2024-05-15T05:30:25Z")
Thereās a charm to it, I agree. Only, in my view it looks a little silly, and doesnāt correlate to the stats on paper.
I ended up scaling them individually, mirroring a few bodies, and changing out a weapon, so that theyāre slightly different sizes, all different poses, and altogether intimidating. Iāll receive them at the end of the week, if all goes well, Iāll let yāall know how they turned out š¤
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### Author:  [@Ihsan997](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Ihsan997)
#### Post date: [15 May 2024 06:08 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/7 "2024-05-15T06:08:39Z")
> [@Vacationist](#):
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> I ended up scaling them individually, mirroring a few bodies, and changing out a weapon, so that theyāre slightly different sizes, all different poses, and altogether intimidating.
Iām interested in seeing the results of this, as the bull centaur scaling has been one of my personal pet issues. Would you be able to post photos of them with other models next to them for comparison?
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### Author:  [@Lordofchaos](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Lordofchaos)
#### Post date: [15 May 2024 20:26 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/8 "2024-05-15T20:26:55Z")
VaCa,YES please. LLH
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [15 May 2024 21:19 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/9 "2024-05-15T21:19:50Z")
I wonāt have any original sized ones physically, but I can set up a scene in blender (with bases) where youāll be able to check the difference. Soon! Eta is by the end of this week.
My patience, however, is tested. So much so, in fact, that I am plotting the summoning of a great commander from the host of the lord of skulls himself. Just to bide the time, Iām certain I can control it.
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### Author:  [@Lordofchaos](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Lordofchaos)
#### Post date: [15 May 2024 22:07 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/10 "2024-05-15T22:07:19Z")
Donāt control it, GO with it. give in to the power. Blood for the blood Godā¦Sorry old habits die hard.
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [16 May 2024 20:45 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/11 "2024-05-16T20:45:48Z")
I did it! Iām second guessing myself a lot right now, but hereās my line of thought: a Lamassu isnāt actually a huge buff monster - as a matter of fact it is the wizard of the monster world, so relatively small and frail. The great Taurus is a different matter, and it is still taller and more importantly wider than the upscaled bulltaurs. If you compare an upscaled Bulltaur torso and face to an infantryman, there isnāt much of a difference as a matter of fact. I mostly scaled them so the bodies would be longer and especially wider. There is no doubt when I look at this, that the regular ones are cavalry, and the bigger ones are monstrous cavalry.
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### Author:  [@Ihsan997](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Ihsan997)
#### Post date: [17 May 2024 06:11 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/12 "2024-05-17T06:11:08Z")
> [@Vacationist](#):
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> If you compare an upscaled Bulltaur torso and face to an infantryman, there isnāt much of a difference as a matter of fact. I mostly scaled them so the bodies would be longer and especially wider. There is no doubt when I look at this, that the regular ones are cavalry, and the bigger ones are monstrous cavalry.
I never paid close attention to that before, but it makes a lot of sense. The FW centaurs looked so different from the old school big hats that I imagined them as entirely different beings, but looking at how you kept the model and scaled it appropriately, the difference seems subtler but more logical.
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### Author:  [@Zoddtheimmortal](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Zoddtheimmortal)
#### Post date: [18 May 2024 12:57 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/13 "2024-05-18T12:57:57Z")
This one is a very frustrating topic to me. Im annoyed we didnt get cav sized centaurs.
Cornixt did some tenderizers pushed by normal centaurs that fit the base. They also fit the rules very well.
I totally get the upsizing of the centaurs. I dont understand why gw tried to make them dragon ogres.
If you upsize them i agree you should do it minimally and keep them dwarfy proportions.
They should blend in better then.
I look forward to seeing yours painted
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### Author:  [@Thom-Thumb](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Thom-Thumb)
#### Post date: [19 May 2024 08:01 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/14 "2024-05-19T08:01:08Z")
I am just going to run chaos knights as bull centaurs under ally rules
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [30 May 2024 09:49 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/15 "2024-05-30T09:49:16Z")
Comparison shot of upscaled bulltaur next to bretonnian (grail) knight. Heās one thicc bully boy, Iāll tell you hwhat
Followup for anyone who needs to see this today:
Tauāruk ready to hit the slopes! ššæ
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### Author:  [@dfletch](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/dfletch)
#### Post date: [30 May 2024 17:11 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/16 "2024-05-30T17:11:49Z")
Scaled to 135%. Please ignore the incomplete paint job. Itās _almost_ there but not quite.
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### Author:  [@Vacationist](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Vacationist)
#### Post date: [14 June 2024 19:19 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/17 "2024-06-14T19:19:20Z")
Bulltaurs at roughly 130% size. A little wider than tall. I am warming up to them and starting to wonder if they werenāt always this size.
Banner pole and top is too big in my opinion, however, but I canāt really fix it now. Maybe if I do like an oblong banner than hangs down it will look ok? I saw someone who has two strips of cloth flowing from below the facing Lamassus š¤
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### Author:  [@Lordofchaos](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Lordofchaos)
#### Post date: [14 June 2024 20:56 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/18 "2024-06-14T20:56:07Z")
Army looks fantastic, You were correct size does matter.
They look great.
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### Author:  [@Skullomartin](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Skullomartin)
#### Post date: [6 July 2024 20:34 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/opinions-on-rescaling-bully-centaurs/26554/19 "2024-07-06T20:34:02Z")
Those Centaurs look great at 130%, probably would look great at 120 or 140-150% too.
Dont worry about it, theyād look great with the rest of the army anyway.
I didnt decide what to do in my Army, using classic centaurs bigger or look or the new ones (or similar), they werent a priority to me right now.