# Silicone/rubber modelling tools for Greenstuff/Milliput
**URL:** https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509
**Category:** Sculpting Tutorials
**Created:** [5 April 2023 12:39 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509 "2023-04-05T12:39:40Z")
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### Author:  [@Jasko](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Jasko)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 12:39 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/1 "2023-04-05T12:39:40Z")
Alright gents, what are you guys using and are you happy with it?
I know, some use their fingers, others use metal sculpting tools, but I’ve used both and I’d like to try out these rubber ones 🙂
Specifically interesting questions are
- firm or soft?
- which size?
From what I could gather, harder epoxy (like Greenstuff) would need a firmer scultping tool, right? And sizewise, is it like it is with paintbrush-sizes, where we all started out with an ultra-fine high-detail 0001 brush because we thought “I’m painting small things, I need a small brush” but then all learned that like 99% of all steps are made with a size 1 or 2?
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### Author:  [@Anzu](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Anzu)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 14:32 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/2 "2023-04-05T14:32:44Z")
Greenstuff is relatively soft imo. Soft/firm does probably not matter that much – it’s more a matter of preference. I got [this one](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/anzus-chaos-dwarfs-2023-01-28/1374/48) from boesner (they don’t sell this exact model anymore but it was a size 2) I am really happy with. I cannot really compare it with anything else. It’s neither extremely soft nor stiff if that helps. Never had the desire to go smaller. For this I use metal tools.
Since writing this post I have been incorporating metal tools more into my work flow. Problem here is what’s currently out there (not naming brands here but just type `green stuff sculpting tools` etc into Amazon) is utter crap since GW retired its relatively decent sculpting tools a few years ago. I now use almost exclusively student-grade dentistry tools (which have the same shape as the old GW tools but a better finish. You can find them under the names Hylin/Le Cron/Zahle). If you have trouble finding vendors selling to private individuals, drop me a message… I have been trough this. Talking about domestic made tools here. There is import stuff on Amazon/ebay that may be ok as well.
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### Author:  [@Jasko](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Jasko)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 14:53 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/3 "2023-04-05T14:53:59Z")
Thanks for the input, that’s very handy!
I have the old GW metal sculpting tools (and also dentistry tools I actually use for my teeth), so I’m set on that front. Just want to dip my toes into this rubber thing 🙂 Good to know you had a size #2, that’s helpful. The firm/soft issue too.
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### Author:  [@Anzu](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Anzu)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 15:04 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/4 "2023-04-05T15:04:19Z")
Right, I got carried away a bit. 😆 In my opinion the best tool for anything organic/realistic folds on cloths.
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### Author:  [@Jasko](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Jasko)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 15:08 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/5 "2023-04-05T15:08:45Z")
> [@Anzu](#):
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> Right, I got carried away a bit.
What? No, it was all super helpful! Thanks mate!
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### Author:  [@Reaver](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Reaver)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 15:51 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/6 "2023-04-05T15:51:11Z")
I definitely agree that the smaller silicone sculpting tools are a lower priority. I have some of those and mostly find myself using the larger versions and then shifting to metal tools as things get tiny.
I find these three geometries circled to get the most frequent use.
Regarding stiffness I’ve only ever used one type. They seem fairly average stiffness. On freshly mixed green stuff I haven’t had any issues. Maybe softer ones would start to underperform if you’re trying to chase some sculpting in the end of a long session. Metal tools are better late in the workability window anyway.
Having some lovely blue stuff molds or a rivet maker to chuck spare green stuff in has become common practice. Keeps my greebly gubbinz bin full.
I also have really enjoyed metal ball end tools but they are probably more of a time saver than a necessity.
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### Author:  [@Jasko](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Jasko)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 17:19 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/7 "2023-04-05T17:19:19Z")
Excellent guys, so that’s two votes for rather large and stiff. (_TWSS, right @MichaelX?_)
That’s really helpful!
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### Author:  [@tjub](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/tjub)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 17:26 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/8 "2023-04-05T17:26:15Z")
I use FIRM and size 0. I dont find the soft ones very useful for GS, they are too soft IMO. On the photo posted be @Reaver above I use #1,3,4 from left-right.
Regarding GS tools, I find these very useful as well. Handy for alot of different tasks… 🙂
[ ](https://www.greenstuffworld.com/10363-large_default/metal-ball-stylus-tool-sculpting-burnisher-tools.jpg)
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### Author:  [@Jasko](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Jasko)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 17:39 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/9 "2023-04-05T17:39:01Z")
Right on, yeah I can imagine those balltops come in handy!
I think I’m going to start out with a firm #2, see where this takes me.
Thanks again, fellas!
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### Author:  [@Reaver](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/Reaver)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 17:43 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/10 "2023-04-05T17:43:22Z")
Yes exactly! Those are the ones I have. Great for tentacle suction cups. Got them on a whim. Now they see regular use.
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### Author:  [@tjub](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/tjub)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 17:53 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/11 "2023-04-05T17:53:24Z")
Same here, a bit surprised how often I used them at first.
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### Author:  [@MichaelX](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/u/MichaelX)
#### Post date: [5 April 2023 17:55 UTC](https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/silicone-rubber-modelling-tools-for-greenstuff-milliput/25509/12 "2023-04-05T17:55:16Z")
I have the softish brushes, they’re fine for miliput and can be used for gs, but id go for firm too if i would huy them again