An old man goes to war

[Lord_Aldades]

Yesterday I got my very first game of The Old World in, of course taking my beloved Chaos Dwarfs.

It was a small affair of 1000 pts to get a hang of the rules with actual play, and sadly no success due to some errors on my part.

1. Having faith in not misfiring on the first shot
2. Why did I take that Ashen Banner again?
3. Why did I forget to bring loaded dice???

Anyways, here the short battle report, hopefully you enjoy the amateur picture shots a little which I tried to forge into a bit of a YouTube clip.

[Zoddtheimmortal]

Keeping your sorcerer within 9 of a deathshrieker makes it twice as good i swear. Rerolling a dice every turn really helps get hits or avoid misfires

Great battle rep. Never seen a castellen used before…without a battle standard anyway (not sure if a hero or lord tbh).
Id drop him for another unit along with the banner and biting blade.
The detachment rule is great for cds, supporting fire or counter charge is really nice.

I feel like you could do with something fast and a bit hitty in your list, centaurs (v dear) or flame demons or even merc ogres

[Lord_Aldades]

One thing I lean toward is replacing fireglaives with blunderbusses.

And sneaky gitz. Lots of sneaky gitz…

[Vacationist]

Awesome! Well put together battle report, there, and you kind of sound like Jean Claude Van Damme ^^

You should have consulted us on the list building process! ^^ A dreadquake is not really worth it at this low points level - as you found out, the risk is too great. Even if the Daemonsmith had been close, it might’ve still missed or just failed to really do anything.

As @Zoddtheimmortal says, it’s rare to see a Castellan in a list, the reason being, he’s really not that good. A Sorcerer-Prophet should be our general, that’s just how it is. On a Bull or a Lamassu, but he also has merit inside a unit of Infernal Guard, propping them up with Daemonic Vessel.

Ashen Banner is good, but is of course wasted points when your opponent has 0(!) shooting ^^ The Infernal Guard champion is a prime place to place the Hellshard, to suicide explode those pesky enemy glass cannon characters!

Your detachment is too big (max half of the parent unit), and it cannot have any command models whatsoever, just so you know.

Your cutthroat unit is chef’s kiss perfect - minimum size and no command, as it should be. Get another one of those, and don’t take them for their shooting (although it often surprises in terms of effectivenes). They’re there to die, slowing down the enemy while they’re at it.

I wouldn’t bother with the Daemonsmith - taking a Prophet will get you a stronger mage who can also function as Engineer for maybe the first round before he takes to the frontlines.

Iron Daemons are beastly, take one of those if you can (probably not at 1000pts, but maybe…?)

Don’t bother with the K’daai unless you’re just having a goof game (my opinion).

A hobgoblin khan on a wolf is a prime candidate for carrying the ruby ring and popping off some fireballs on enemy chaff units.

Anything else…? Right, consider Black Orcs for most of your core requirement - they really are quite decent. A bigboss on foot with great weapon and trollhide pants in there, you’re good to go.

I’m not yet convinced by wolf riders or sneaky gits, because of their price to value and lack of AP respectively.

People like Elementalism, but I swear by Daemonology, since for our warrior wizard and infantry heavy army, there’s really only one spell you don’t want, and you can just substitute that for a signature spell.

I think that’s all. My daughter is waking up ^^ Keep it up!

[Lord_Aldades]

The Earthshaker is rool of cool, and to have a model on table older then my actual opponent. I never leave house without it (in non competitive games at least) just because I love the model so much (and hence my avatar ).

For the Castellan, it was a try out of the characters, considering it was the first outing ever in the game, and they did pack some serious bonkers in the last edition I played often (cough, 6th). The fireglaives weren’t a detachment, but a unit in it’s own right btw.

About the Black Orcs, it’s kind of an anti-meta thing to be honest. My Hashutian heart cries when I see all those lists at tournaments based around blocks of BO’s with only Dawi’Zharr missile support to be honest.

[Jasko]

@Lord_Aldades

My Hashutian heart cries when I see all those lists at tournaments based around blocks of BO’s with only Dawi’Zharr missile support to be honest.

Totally with you here, mate!

[Vacationist]

@Lord_Aldades

The Earthshaker is rool of cool, and to have a model on table older then my actual opponent. I never leave house without it

I’m with you. It’s my favourite artillery piece as well Mine is fake resin, though, so not as old

But hey! Didn’t it come out in '93? what kind of opponents do you have that are younger than that?

@Lord_Aldades

The fireglaives weren’t a detachment, but a unit in it’s own right btw.

Ah, sorry, I thought I heard you say that in the video

@Lord_Aldades

My Hashutian heart cries when I see all those lists at tournaments based around blocks of BO’s with only Dawi’Zharr missile support to be honest

I mean… I get it. But in my mind, the CD’s aren’t bloodthirsty as such. They’ll happily leave the fighting to lesser races if it means achieving the objective without undue loss of dwarf lives. As I recall, there aren’t that many of them, hence why they pad their armies with greenskins.

[Lord_Aldades]

1994, but our club has been lucky to have had an influx of newer members in the 25 - 30 bracket.

yeah… those starting a family people are younger then when the Chaos Dwarf range was released I realised this week, my opponent being 27… so from 1997 manufacture date.

[Lord_Aldades]

I mean… I get it. But in my mind, the CD’s aren’t bloodthirsty as such. They’ll happily leave the fighting to lesser races if it means achieving the objective without undue loss of dwarf lives. As I recall, there aren’t that many of them, hence why they pad their armies with greenskins.

Agree, but with that in mind, I see them using the lesser races as to bulk out their force, not blocks big enough to easily wipe out their own small 10 man shooty units. I used to field the really lesser races in 6th and 9thAge, like goblins, but only a small, max 16 man BO unit in support of my usual 24 to 30 gloriously heavy plated warriors along the 20 man units of Blunderbusses in 6th.

Ah nostalgia, the thing that refuses to accept the trendy modern times of the young 'uns

[Vacationist]

I gotta throw in an ackchyually here

Excerpt from the White Dwarf CD army book:

Check that last line. So the Black Orcs we see in our armies are actually conventionally recruited troops, from the roaming mountain tribes, rather than slaves. Black Orcs are also known to be loyal, and smart enough to expect reprisal following any betrayal.

Hobgoblins are not to be trusted of course, but this fact is reliable in and of itself. They fear the Dawi Zharr something fierce, so while cowardly backstabbers one and all, even the units of 40+ we see fielded nowadays would not think to openly betray their employers.

That’s how I see it.

@Lord_Aldades

my opponent being 27

I also played a 27 year old the other day. He kinda looked older than me, though

[Jasko]

There’s certainly a fluffy way to have a slave army with minimal actual Chaos Dwarfs. Just as there is a reason to field a pure Chaos Dwarf army. And anything in between.