[Archive] 1000 - 3000 Point Nemesis List, need feedback!

Lepreh Khan:

Hey guys. I’ve been trying to get some feedback from HoH but so far haven’t heard much to help me out (except for Uzkul and canix), so I’m hoping to fare better here. These are lists for Nemesis, I’ve included my core 2000 point list, followed by 2250, 2500 and 3000 point upgrades. And last is my 1000 point list. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. These lists are a little different than the ones I put on HoH, mainly because I don’t want to spend too much on new figs just to enter the tournament. Here’s what I have available to me so far:

1 Lord on Taurus

2 Chaos Dwarf Heroes (or Lords)

2 Sorcerors

1 Bull Centaur Lord/Hero/Champ

57 CD Warriors (makes 2 groups of 24 and then 9 left over)

19 Blunderbusses

30 vanilla hobgoblins

30 armoured hobgoblins

40 bow hobgoblins

10 Wolf riders

2 Death rockets

2 Bolt Throwers

2 Earthshakers

9 Bull Centaurs

Here’s what I plan on buying (probably through Battlewagon Bits or somebody that can get me something of a discount)

Orc Boyz set (probably for arrer boyz)

Dwarf Warriors box (to add to the 9 leftovers for a unit of 25 CDW)

2 more Bolt Throwers

Onto the lists!

LORDS:

Chaos Dwarf Lord

-Great Taurus

-Shield

-Armor of the Furnace

-Black Hammer of Hashut

443

Chaos Dwarf Hero

-Armor of Gazrakh

-Great Weapon

94

Chaos Dwarf Hero

-Heavy Armor

-Enchanted Shield

-Sword of Might

94

Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer

-Dispel scroll x 2

115

TOTAL = 746

CORE:

Chaos Dwarf Warriors x 24

-Full Command

246

Chaos Dwarf Warriors x 24

-Full Command

246

Chaos Dwarf Warriors x 19

-Blunderbusses

-Champion, Musician

248

Hobgoblins x 15

30

Hobgoblins x 15

30

Hobgoblin Wolf Riders x 10

-Light Armor, Shield

-Musician

140

TOTAL = 940

SPECIAL:

Death Rocket

80

Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower x 2

60

Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower x 2

60

TOTAL SPECIAL = 200

RARE:

Earthshaker Cannon

110

TOTAL = 110

Grand Total = 1996

Add to make 2250:

Bull Centaur x 10

-Heavy Armor

-Full Command

255 (I will drop 1 Hobgoblin if they complain about me being over 1 point)

Total = 2251

Add to make 2500

Orc Arrer Boyz x 15

Musician

95

Hobgoblins x 30

-Light Armor, Shield

-Full Command

150

Total = 2496

Add to make 3000

Chaos Dwarf Warriors x 25

-Full command

255

Earthshaker

110

Death Rocket

80

Hobgoblin Hero

-Great Weapon, Heavy Armor

-Wolf

60

(If they complain about the 1 point, again, I will drop the vanilla hobgoblin

Total = 3001

1000 Point list:

HEROES:

CD Hero

-Armor of the Furnace

-Great Weapon

109

CD Sorceror

-2x Dispel Scrolls

115

Total = 224

CORE:

19 Chaos Dwarf Warriors

-Full Command

201

19 Chaos Dwarf Warriors

-Full Command

201

10 Hobgoblin Wolf riders

-Light Armor, Shield

-Musician, Champion

160

22 Vanilla Hobgoblins (ate up extra points)

40

SPECIAL:

2 Hobgoblin Bolt Throwers

60

RARE:

Earthshaker

110

Total = 1000 points dead on

All thoughts/comments welcome. Thanks.

-Lepreh Khan

Uzkul Werit:

They’re pretty good lists but they seem to lack magic defense. It wouldn’t be a probelm in 2000pts but in larger games, you’ll get ripped apart. The Orc Archers seem a little pointless. Spot them for Hobgoblin Archers or normal Boyz.

minty:

but arrer boyz are the best orc infantry, choppas and bows for 6 points, yes please.

I’d drop one hero for another scroll caddy

Lepreh Khan:

The orc archers are there to protect warmachines. That’s about it.

It’s very true that I lack magic defense in 3000 points. I guess that I should drop the hobgoblin hero and 55 points of something else for a second scroll caddy.

Thanks for the quick relplies. :slight_smile:

-Lepreh Khan

hobblin:

Ummm it’s not hw I’d make my lists but oh well just hope you don’t play

vc or tzeech chaos or any other magic heavey army P.S I would get a sorcerer lord on a lammuse.

Lepreh Khan:

First of all, I’ve gotta know, do you go by the name Garbag on any other forums hobblin???

Second, 2 of my opponents are Tzeentch armies (1 is a Beastman, the other mortals) and I’ve never been decimated by their magic in the 2000 point level. At the 3000 lvl I’ll admit that I’m a little iffy, and I am definately going to find the points for a second scroll caddie or a Sorceror Lord. As for VC, the Earthshaker should do enough anguish by making the undead move like 2 inches or whatever it is, and my Lord can mage/General/Heirophant hunt if he needs to.

Third, I am definately not a big fan of the lammasu. It leaves the Sorcerer Lord quite vulnerable imo and I’d rather take a Taurus over it. Even at the 3000 point level I don’t think that I would take a lammasu. Easy Victory Points for the enemy. A Sorceror Lord isn’t out of the question, however. He’s nice when he’s inside a unit that can protect him.