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jimjim:

Hey, new user here (been lurking for quite a few years though).

I need some comments on the lists I’m using (and plan to use).

List 1: My “standard” list - been using this for the majority of my matches, with some tweaks here and there.

Sorcerer-Prophet, lvl4, Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield, Channelling Staff, Lore of Hashut - 365 Pts.

Daemonsmith Sorcerer, Scroll, Lore of Metal/Death/Fire - 120 Pts.
Infernal Castellan, GW, The Mask of the Furnace, BSB - 200 Pts.
Hobgoblin Khan, LA, Spear, Enchanted Shield, Giant Wolf - 63 Pts.
Hobgoblin Khan, Shield, LA, Spear, Dragonhelm, Giant Wolf - 70 Pts.

32 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, M, S, C - 416 Pts.
44 Hobgoblin Cutthroates, Shields, M, S - 210 Pts.

Iron Daemon War Engine - 285 Pts.
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher - 100 Pts.
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher - 100 Pts.
Magma Cannon - 145 Pts.

K’daii Destroyer - 325 Pts.

Total: 2399

List 2: The one I plan on using from now on… Pretty standard I think… I felt the IGs lacked power in CC, so giving them GWs would be a fair choice… I also think Hobs may be useful sometimes, but I’ve bought 10 IGs with fireglaives, so I guess I’ll just give myself an excuse to finish basing and painting them… A unit of 10 may be a nice bunker for either the prophet or the Dsmith, depending on the matchup…

Sorcerer-Prophet, General, lvl4, Blood of Hashut, Talisman of Preservation, Enchanted Shield, Channelling Staff, Lore of Hashut - 385 Pts.

Infernal Castellan, Shield, Black Hammer of Hashut, Talisman of Endurance, Dragonhelm, BSB - 207 Pts.
Daemonsmith Sorcerer, Charmed Shield, Scroll, Lore of Metal/Death/Fire - 125 Pts.
Hobgoblin Khan, Shield, LA, Giant Wolf - 56 Pts.
Hobgoblin Khan, Shield, LA, Giant Wolf - 56 Pts.
Hobgoblin Khan, Shield, LA, Giant Wolf - 56 Pts.

28 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, GW, FC - 452 Pts.
10 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, Fireglaives, Musician - 180 Pts.

Iron Daemon War Engine, Hellbound - 310 Pts.
Magma Cannon - 145 Pts.
Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher - 100 Pts.

K’daii Destroyer - 325 Pts.

Total: 2397

Please, give me some input :hat off

Tsagadai:

Hobgoblins are quite useful, I’d keep them but split into two units of 20ish with bows and shields. IG on their own tend to lose combats but pass a lot of breaktests but with a hobbo flanker they start winning them.

If you want great weapons you want the banner of +1 Movement because they are only good in combat if they get in combat before the end of the game. If you take the movement banner give the champ a pistol, that two point pistol has paid for itself every single game I have played.

I wouldn’t bunker the daemonsmith, killing IG to miscasts isn’t fun. I find giving him a shield and using him as an engineer/eagle hunter with your warmachines is the way to go. A single dsmith and a hellcannon can kill any chaff that gets close so position them so one can counterchange for the other and you are laughing.

Strip the shields off one or more of your khans so they can vanguard. The khans have a S4 thrown weapon too and with vanguard they make really nice marchblockers.

Hellbound ID and destroyer are great for each other but only if you can stop their counters. I usually use a taurak but a couple of khans can usually help takedown that pesky dragonbane carrying mounted prince.

Fireglaive shooting is not the best but they really excel in watchtower (or hiding in any building really). If you are playing scenarios I’d take em or if you are castling in a corner. If neither of those are your style you should probably just split your IG into two cc focused units and use the hobbos for shooting. Giving a fireglaive to the castellan is always good for a laugh if you are turtling.