Just got my Tamurkhan Book and a bunch of models from Forgeworld, great stuff! I’m planning to play a friendly mini tourney with some friends in the near future, but I havn’t played a game with CD’s (pretty new on the whole warhammer scene, always just paited and converted before), and I’d appreciate if you veterans could help me out a bit with my list :cheers
What I will be facing is: Lizardmen, Dark Elves & Skaven.
2000 pts.
I’ve got these models to use:
50x IG w/ HWS (+ command groups)
20x IG w/ Glaives
20x Hobgoblins w/ bows
6x K’daai Fireborn
3x BC
2x Daemonsmiths
2x Infernal Castellans
1x Sorcerer-Prophet
1x Taur’ruk
2x Magma Cannon
1x DS Rocket
1x Hell Cannon
1x K’daai Destroyer conversion
Soo what i’ve come up with:
Lords:
Sorcerer Prophet lvl4 hashut
Chalice, Talisman of Perservation
Heroes:
Daemonsmith lvl2 fire (babysit war machines)
Dispell Scroll
Daemonsmith Sorcerer lvl1 Death (babysit warmachines)
Infernal Castellan: You can’t use a shield and a great weapon. So either go for the enchanted shield and some cheap magic handweapon - or some other item. Everybody takes Mask of the Furnace for +1 to AS and a 4++ ward save. Plus he’ll cause fear - great versus the skaven enemy.
I say drop the dispel scroll. You have the chalice. And when people want to cast the really nasty spell the go max on the power dice and try to get the irresistable force anyway.
You could consider changing the lvl 1 smith into a couple of khans on wolfs. They can stop a regiment for a turn, harass war machines, be a pain for your enemies frenzy monsters. Most importantly it can screen in front of your destroyer, making sure some annoying little unit doesn’t get to hold it up.
I havn’t done any math on your list. But “the terrifying mask of eee” is great on a khan - when fighting the skaven. Charging a low LD unit utside BSB/general range with terror is well worth the small amount of points.
And check the armylist part of the forum. Tons of list on 2000 points, with many a tactical thought and discussion.
You don’t really need 2 smiths. At 2000pts I’d stick to the Prophet, bsb and 1 level 1 smith.
You should have the enchanted shield on your prophet. And your bsb really needs the mask of furnace/shield combo. This gives you 2 important characters with a 2+ and a 4+ save.
Put a champ in the guard unit and drop the razor standard in favour of the lichebone pennant. I like to have at least a standard and musician in the hobgoblin archers.
Your special/rare choices are fairly standard in most powerful chaos dwarf lists.
What do you mean when you say "4++" ward save, whats that extra "+" ?
turbotomte
It's short hand for ward save. It's just a commonly used short hand to signify the difference between ward and armour saves. Eg "3+/5++" would mean "a 3+ armour save and a 5+ ward save".
What do you mean when you say "4++" ward save, whats that extra "+" ?
turbotomte
It's short hand for ward save. It's just a commonly used short hand to signify the difference between ward and armour saves. Eg "3+/5++" would mean "a 3+ armour save and a 5+ ward save".
Played against Lizardmen, and he had put together his list to beat me, which he also did. And I rolled the worst dices I’ve ever rolled… (turn 2 my Destroyer got 3 wounds from skinks(!) and took 3 wounds from himself and died before even getting into combat…)
Anyway, I’m looking for a solid 1000 pts list vs skaven. He always runs a Hellpit Abo, and a destroyer would’ve been great to counter its regen, but can’t fit that in 1000 pts.
This is what I’ve got:
Infernal Castellan
Fireglaive
Daemonsmith Sorc lvl1 Fire (sits with magma cannons)
charmed shield
19x Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard (4x5, might start out as 2x10 and reform?? castellan here)
Thanks! Yes, I guess in theory they are. But if I roll like yesterday (1hit the two times i got it to hit something) it feels that the magma preforms better.
I played a 1500 game yesterday against Dark Elves which I won. The Destroyer again suffered bad luck with dices, but managed to get to the enemy unit (with his only sorcerer) with 1 wound left, and wiped out the whole thing before it died.
But one problem I have (again, keep in mind I’m a new player to warhammer altogether), is skirmishers. When I play Lizardmen he always fields Charmeleon Skinks, and when I played Dark Elves yesterday, he had those Darkelves skirmishers. What would be the best way to deal with these? I feel that when we play 1500-2000 pts I kind of have too little points to set up something to defend my warmachines flanks from them. I’ve tried to cast the fire signature spell with the smith to deal with them, but both times this have failed.