gORCUS:
OK, so this is my first CD list, I want a clear goal before I start buying, converting and painting.
The theme is a slave force, a sort of evil DoW army with a lot variety (hobgoblin infantry will be human slaves with ogre slaver unit fillers). As my current army is ogres, I’m going the exact opposite approach with cheap characters and lots of models.
I want this army to be both fun and competative. So here it is, opinions and advice greatly appreciated!
CHARACTERS-323
CD Hero (general) 94
Armor of Gazrakh, Great Weapon
CD Hero 114
BSB, Heavy Armor, Warbanner
CD Sorcerer 115
1st level, Dispel Scroll x2
CORE-1111
23 CD Warriors 333
Great Weapons, Full Command, Banner of Slavery
*Joined by the General and BSB
15 CD Warriors 180
Blunderbusses
14 CD Warriors 168
Blunderbusses
*Joined by the Sorcerer
10 Hobgoblin Wolfboyz 140
Wolves, Light Armor, Shields, Musician
10 Hobgoblin Wolfboyz 140
Wolves, Light Armor, Shields, Musician
15 Hobgoblins 30
15 Hobgoblins 30
15 Hobgoblins 30
15 Hobgoblins 30
15 Hobgoblins 30
SPECIAL-548
15 Black Orcs 228
Standard, Musician, Shields
25 Orc Boyz 180
Full Command, Shields
Death Rocket 80
2 Hobgoblin Bolt Throwers 60
RARE-264
3 Ogre Ironguts 154
Bellower
Earthshaker 110
2246 points
The theory is to use my Hobbo’s to delay deploying anything important, be a general distraction and then to use them as a meat shield for the core of my army (the GW warriors, Orcs and Blorcs), which they should do fairly well with rerollable Ld10 psychology tests (at least the ones in a position to be meat shields). Animosty shouldn’t be too big of deal as the dwarves are so slow anyhow. BB units will deploy near the warmachines and the wolfboyz and ogres will get into the opposing army’s flanks and rear and disrupt his missle fire and march block.
That’s the idea anyway.
What do you think?
wallacer:
I’m curious - is 15 Black Orcs enough?
I’m tempted to buy some Black Orcs myself (the new plastic ones) and if 15 is a viable number I may have to get my A into G and buy some.
I’d be tempted to field a Lammasu or Taurus to support the Flank attack. For one thing, it would be a load of fun to play, although costly points-wise.
My only criticism is that your Army Banner bearer maybe looks a tad vulnerable?
I think it’s a great list in terms of your theory on how to play with it.
It’s a style of gameplay that sounds like it would be fun to play with and against.
metro_gnome:
well i dont think so… but i think one black orc is too many…
people f34r teh 8l0rcz… they will get shot to pieces…
Buy them at 20 and they should land with 3CR…
but thass a 300 point unit… a 300 point green unit…
thass embarassing…thass what that is…
18 is also an interesting number ive been playing with…
but sadly its not as effective on the 25mm base…
gORCUS:
I hope 15 is enough, I’d like to use them as a flank gaurd for my big CD unit. Since they don’t suffer from animosity I can have them hold a line with the dwarves and charge a flank of any unit that charges the dwarves, or vice versa. I can also bait and flee with some hobbies to open up a flank for them to charge. I think 10 ws4, str5 attacks on the charge shouldn’t require too much static CR to hold on the first turn, or break a unit thats already engaged. The key (I would imagine, as I haven’t played anything like this yet) would be to make sure they get the charge.
Of course I’d be better off with more boyz, but as CD’s are the creators of the blorcs (and they look sooo cool!), I just needed to squeek some in. Plus I want it to be a nice and diverse list.
I’m doing a minor revision, and my BSB will be a lot better protected.
Thanks for the input!
gORCUS:
CHARACTERS-304
CD Hero (general) 74
Heavy armor, Enchanted shield
CD Hero 115
BSB, Armor of Gazrakh
CD Sorcerer 115
1st level, Dispel Scroll x2
CORE-1128
19 CD Warriors 239
Great Weapons, Full Command
*Joined by the General
19 CD Warriors 251
Full Command, Banner of Slavery
*Joined by the BSB
15 CD Warriors 180
Blunderbusses
14 CD Warriors 168
Blunderbusses
*Joined by the Sorcerer
10 Hobgoblin Wolfboyz 140
Wolves, Light Armor, Shields, Musician
25 Hobgoblins 50
25 Hobgoblins 50
25 Hobgoblins 50
SPECIAL-548
15 Black Orcs 228
Standard, Musician, Shields
25 Orc Boyz 180
Full Command, Shields
Death Rocket 80
2 Hobgoblin Bolt Throwers 60
RARE-264
3 Ogre Ironguts 154
Bellower
Earthshaker 110
2244 points
gORCUS:
CHARACTERS-439
CD Hero (general) 74
Heavy armor, Enchanted shield
CD Hero 115
BSB, Armor of Gazrakh
CD Sorcerer 150
2nd level, Dispel Scroll x2
CD Sorcerer 100
2nd level
CORE-1079
23 CD Warriors 283
Great Weapons, Full Command
*Joined by the General, and a Sorcerer
24 CD Warriors 296
Full Command, Banner of Slavery
*Joined by the BSB
14 CD Warriors 168
Blunderbusses
*Joined by a Sorcerer
10 Hobgoblin Wolfboyz 140
Wolves, Light Armor, Shields, Musician
22 Hobgoblins 98
Bows
25 Hobgoblins 50
25 Hobgoblins 50
SPECIAL-468
15 Black Orcs 228
Standard, Musician, Shields
25 Orc Boyz 180
Full Command, Shields
2 Hobgoblin Bolt Throwers 60
RARE-264
3 Ogre Ironguts 154
Bellower
Earthshaker 110
2250 points
I’m pretty happy with this, I may try to squeek in a warbanner for the GW warriors or the Black Gem of Gnar for the second sorcerer.
Does this list look like it would be fun to play against, and still be competative in a tournament enviroment?
Bearing in mind that I want a strongly diverse slave horde (i.e., less dwarves, more slaves of all different races), is there anything alse you would change?
gORCUS:
CHARACTERS-439
CD Hero (general) 74
Heavy armor, Enchanted shield
CD Hero 115
BSB, Armor of Gazrakh
CD Sorcerer 150
2nd level, Dispel Scroll x2
CD Sorcerer 100
1st level, Black Gem of Gnar
CORE-1078
23 CD Warriors 308
Great Weapons, Full Command, Warbanner
*Joined by the General, and a Sorcerer
24 CD Warriors 296
Full Command, Banner of Slavery
*Joined by the BSB
17 CD Warriors 204
Blunderbusses
*Joined by a Sorcerer
10 Hobgoblin Wolfboyz 170
Wolves, Light Armor, Shields, Bows, Musician
25 Hobgoblins 50
25 Hobgoblins 50
SPECIAL-468
15 Black Orcs 228
Standard, Musician, Shields
25 Orc Boyz 180
Full Command, Shields
2 Hobgoblin Bolt Throwers 60
RARE-264
3 Ogre Ironguts 154
Bellower
Earthshaker 110
2249 points
I think I’m happy with this list as a starting point, what do you all think?