[Archive] 2500 points tournament army with Lammasu

ViLe:

I will field my CD in another tournament next month and here ist the actuall list. (work in progress)

the common restrictions:

here are thre restrictions:
http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/showthr…p?t=139025

in general its:
- never generate more than 12 power dice
- generate max two power dice beside the 2d6 roll
- max 4 power dice to use for one spell (no limit for dispel dice Sad )
- you cant get more than +4 on casting lore of metal, life, heavens, death, shadows and light
- if you use a model with loremaster than you cant use the lore with another model (horrors or bound items dont count)
- not more than 80 models which are able to shoot. Single shot bolt throwers count as 5 Archers and other war machines as 10.
- max 3 templates incl. breath weapons and cannons
- not more than 45 models per unit
- 9-11   P. max 40 per unit
- 12-14 P. max 35 per unit
- 15-18 P. max 30 per unit
- 19-29 P. max 20 per unit
- 30-39 P. max 12 per unit
- 40 P. and more max 9 per unit
- no choice more then 3 times
- no power scroll, crown of command or the flying fortress
- no special Chars or Champs
- you get look out sir against the big spells like the dreaded 13th and stuff

that are the restricitions in general… but there are also specific terms for each race…

for CD they are as followed:

- a CD army has a “pool” which you can take 4 choices from: Iron Demon, Bale Taurus, K´daai Destroyer (counts twice), first template with S5, second template with S5 and so on, Bull Centaur Hero
- Magmacannon, Hellcannon and Mortar count as 15 Archers, throwing knifes on Hobgoblins count as 0,25 and IG with Blunderbusses as 1,5
- no chalice of blood and darkness, not more than one Iron Demon, K´daai Destroyer or Hellcannon
here is my list:
1 Lord: 565 Pts.   22.6%
4 Heroes: 394 Pts.   15.7%
2 Core Units: 626 Pts.   25.0%
2 Elite Units: 385 Pts.   15.4%
2 Rare Units: 530 Pts.   21.2%

  1 Lord    

Sorcerer-Prophet, General, Level 4 Upgrade
+  Lammasu
+  Talisman of Preservation, Dispell Scroll
+  Lore of Death
- - - > 565 Points

  4 Heroes    

Infernal Castellan
+  The Mask of the Furnace
+ Battlestandard Bearer
- - - > 195 Points

Daemonsmith Sorcerer
+  Lore of Fire
- - - > 95 Points

Hobgoblin Khan
+  Giant Wolf
- - - > 52 Points

Hobgoblin Khan
+  Giant Wolf
- - - > 52 Points

  2 Core Units    

26 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, Great Weapons, Musician, Standardbearer, Champion, Pistol
+  Banner of Eternal Flame
- - - > 434 Points

40 Hobgoblin Cutthroates, Shields, Musician, Standardbearer
- - - > 192 Points

  2 Elite Units    

Iron Daemon War Engine
- - - > 285 Points

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher
- - - > 100 Points

  2 Rare Units    

K’daii Destroyer
- - - > 325 Points

Hellcannon
- - - > 205 Points

Total Points The Legion of Azgorh : 2500
I made two games so far against empire (ah my old enemy :wink: ) an won both.
The heros are very poor… but i needed to cut equip to get all the other stuff.
I thought about a Sorcerer on Lammasu… Because with two LD10 death mages you can rock the place. MR3 included. They have obliterated the empire troops with purple sun and stuff twice so far. Just sit around out of his line of sight and throw your evil spells at him. I would feel much safer with an erthing rod and the scroll up to the other mage.
Well i just miss a little magic wepon, a shield and the ironcurse icon on my BSB… But he had to despise them for the team.
The LV1 and the two Khans are missing all of their equipment. Well it would be cool to kit them out a little bit better, but they take it for the team also.
26 IG with GW and Flaming Banner. The main core unit in most of my lists, they have not been disapointing to me so far. The pistol is just for filling troop points.
The Hobgoblins are my problem… It´s hard to keep them in LD range of the general, when flying around with him. Alternatively i just could run the lv1 mage as the general.
The rest of the army is very self-explanatory. Destroyer, Iron Demon, Rocket, Hellcannon.

The tournament is played with the category system for line of sight i guess… So the Khans should be hidden behind the other units until their sacrifice is needed. I have no need to run towards my enemy just some tactical use of the Iron Demon. The Destroyer and the Lammasu rider should head out to do damage, the rest is supposed to guard the warmachines. I am also looking for a lot of terrain to hide my Lammasu. In case of missing chaff i have to stay back as far as possible. Against a knight- and demigryphsheavy army with steam tank and stuff, i managed to win twice.

so your thoughts please :slight_smile:

and a question at the end: On what basesize do you use your Lammasu? Mine is an old one on a 50x50 base. The “restriction FAQ” says it should be used on a 100x150 base i guess. My intention was to put him on the same base as the HPA is, just because it feels fair to me.

ViLe:

ok guys… i changed the list a little bit…

1 Lord: 565 Pts. 22.6%

4 Heroes: 429 Pts. 17.1%

2 Core Units: 626 Pts. 25.0%

3 Elite Units: 555 Pts. 22.2%

1 Rare Unit: 325 Pts. 13.0%

*************** 1 Lord ***************

Sorcerer-Prophet, General, Level 4 Upgrade

+ Lammasu

+ Talisman of Preservation, Earthing Rod

+ Lore of Death

- - - > 565 Points

*************** 4 Heroes ***************

Hobgoblin Khan

+ Giant Wolf

- - - > 52 Points

Hobgoblin Khan

+ Giant Wolf

- - - > 52 Points

Daemonsmith Sorcerer

+ Dispell Scroll

+ Lore of Fire

- - - > 120 Points

Infernal Castellan

+ Warrior Bane, Ironcurse Icon, The Mask of the Furnace

+ Battlestandard Bearer

- - - > 205 Points

*************** 2 Core Units ***************

26 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, Great Weapons, Musician, Standardbearer, Champion, Pistol

+ Banner of Eternal Flame

- - - > 434 Points

40 Hobgoblin Cutthroates, Shields, Musician, Standardbearer

- - - > 192 Points

*************** 3 Elite Units ***************

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

- - - > 100 Points

Magma Cannon

- - - > 145 Points

Iron Daemon War Engine, Hellbound

- - - > 310 Points

*************** 1 Rare Unit ***************

K’daii Destroyer

- - - > 325 Points

Total Points The Legion of Azgorh : 2500
i switched from hell to magma for some more equip on the heros and hellbound for the ID.

Last weekend i had a solide vicotry against ogres. Today i crushed empire again. His worst game ever, i tabled him.

Well after 10 games over the last two weeks with 5 different races against his empire, i know his list variations…

Its always about this:

Light Mage Spam: 3 to 4 Mages, lv 4 included

Volley gun, cannon, engineer and steam tank

4 demigryphs, ~10 knights

the lord level knight, priest and bsb on horses

some chaff and sometimes one of the magic chariots

The tournament will take place on Saturday. I can change the list until it starts because they will be checked during the tournament.

I talked with a friend of mine, who plays cd too. He advised me to play a list with “more synergy”. Like this one:


1 Kommandant: 570 Pkt. 22.8%

2 Helden: 317 Pkt. 12.6%

2 Kerneinheiten: 626 Pkt. 25.0%

3 Eliteeinheiten: 455 Pkt. 18.2%

2 Seltene Einheiten: 530 Pkt. 21.2%

*************** 1 Kommandant

Sorcerer-Prophet, lv 4

+ Lammasu

+ 2x Death

+ ToP, Lucky Shield, Earthing Rod

- - - > 570 Punkte

2 Helden

Infernal Castellan

+ Shield

+ The Mask of the Furnace

+ BSB

- - - > 197 Punkte

Daemonsmith Sorcerer

+ Scroll

+ Lore of Fire

- - - > 120 Punkte

2 Kerneinheiten

30 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, CSM, two handed wepon, CSM

+ Banner of Swiftness

- - - > 499 Punkte

21 Hobgoblin Cutthroates, Bows, CSM

- - - > 127 Punkte

3 Eliteeinheiten

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

- - - > 100 Punkte

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

- - - > 100 Punkte

5 Bull Centaur Renders, Shields, CSM

+ Gleaming Pennant

- - - > 255 Punkte

2 Seltene Einheiten ***************

Hellcannon

- - - > 205 Punkte

K’daii Destroyer

- - - > 325 Punkte

Insgesamte Punkte The Legion of Azgorh : 2498
so what do you think? Should i swap the ID for some Centaurs and go back to the hellcannon?

Well the list is missing chaff also…

I prefere mine. On Thursday i will play a 2v2 with 2500p on each side. I plan to use my chaosdwarfs there for some more tournament practice. We play with random teams. Armies should be Empire, Ogres, Dark Elfs and my CD i guess. Do you think my list will do well?

ViLe:

ok finally i choosed this list:

1 Lord: 570 Pts. 22.8%

4 Heroes: 444 Pts. 17.7%

2 Core Units: 629 Pts. 25.1%

3 Elite Units: 530 Pts. 21.2%

1 Rare Unit: 325 Pts. 13.0%

*************** 1 Lord ***************

Sorcerer-Prophet, General, Level 4 Upgrade

+ Lammasu

+ Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield, Earthing Rod

+ Lore of Death

- - - > 570 Points

*************** 4 Heroes ***************

Daemonsmith Sorcerer

+ Enchanted Shield, Dispell Scroll

+ Lore of Fire

- - - > 125 Points

Hobgoblin Khan

+ Giant Wolf

- - - > 52 Points

Hobgoblin Khan

+ Dragonhelm

+ Giant Wolf

- - - > 62 Points

Infernal Castellan

+ Warrior Bane, Ironcurse Icon, The Mask of the Furnace

+ Battlestandard Bearer

- - - > 205 Points

*************** 2 Core Units ***************

26 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard, Great Weapons, Musician, Standardbearer, Champion

+ Banner of Swiftness

- - - > 437 Points

40 Hobgoblin Cutthroates, Shields, Musician, Standardbearer

- - - > 192 Points

*************** 3 Elite Units ***************

Magma Cannon

- - - > 145 Points

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

- - - > 100 Points

Iron Daemon War Engine

- - - > 285 Points

*************** 1 Rare Unit ***************

K’daii Destroyer

- - - > 325 Points

Total Points The Legion of Azgorh : 2498

6th out of 20

11:9 vs Wood Elfs got cheated…

12:8 vs Empire

10:10 vs Skaven
The 2vs2 battle changed to a 1 on 1 for my Dwarfs against the new WoC, which i beat 16:4…

But well lets move to the tournament. I Dwarfs did very well although there where some serious problems. It was the first tournament of the orga team… so they made some mistakes with the pairing system and that took about 2 hours in total so the tournament ended very late.

In the first game i got cheated by a bad wood elf player… he was stalling the game and cheated me with that 2up ward wich you get when you are sitting on one wound left. I should have killed him with five wounds made from a death rocket in first turn… that changed everything… But well i still won. Game ended after round 4…

Game two was vs my teammate with empire. He was very lucky because we played on a table with nearly no terrain. So no place for my death mages to hide. Just 4 hills in each corner…

He startet in the top right and me bottom left. Still i managed to take out his steam tank, some chars with death magic and his cannon. So i won and he was angry :smiley:

Game 3 against a Skaven palyer who was also stalling the game… At least we made 5 turns. 10:10 Skaven is an ugly matchup for chaos dwarfs i guess… Nothing special happened in this game. Killed his Doomwheels, some of his chars, a unit gutter runners and weapon teams. He shot my Iron Deamon and killed my BSB and Lammsu without the lV4.

In a few months they will make a new tournament i think i will be there again.