[Archive] 2500 tourney list - looking for opinions

Murmaider:

The list will speak for itself. I think it’ll end up being a pretty fun gunline. I don’t see the need for the BSB with the strength of the list. Opinions are welcome.

Sorcerer-Prophet: Talisman of Preservation; Arabyan Carpet; Enchanted Shield; Level 4 Wizard

Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Dispel Scroll

Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Chalice of Blood and Darkness

Hobgoblin Khan: Warrior Bane; light armour; shield; Giant Wolf

Hobgoblin Khan: Tormentor Sword; light armour; shield

20 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: fireglaives; Deathmask (pistol); musician; standard bearer

20 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: fireglaives; Deathmask (pistol); musician; standard bearer

Magma Cannon

Magma Cannon

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

Hellcannon

Hellcannon

5 Hobgoblin Wolf Raiders: bows; musician

Murmaider:

Wrong list…

Sorcerer-Prophet: Talisman of Preservation; Arabyan Carpet; Enchanted Shield; Level 4 Wizard

Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Dispel Scroll

Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Chalice of Blood and Darkness

Hobgoblin Khan: Warrior Bane; light armour; shield; Giant Wolf

20 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: fireglaives; Deathmask (pistol); musician; standard bearer (Banner of Swiftness)

20 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: fireglaives; Deathmask (pistol); musician; standard bearer (Gleaming Pennant)

Magma Cannon

Magma Cannon

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

Hellcannon

Hellcannon

7 Hobgoblin Wolf Raiders: bows; musician

2497 points

dromar:

Well…

Strong list but i don’t see the fun playing it.

It really looks like a standard dwarf gunline and close to nobody likes to play against this kind of army where there is just 1 phase: the shooting phase.

I would drop the magma cannon, the wolfraiders to take an other khan and i would take something to moove: bull centaurs, iron daemon, even hobgoblins archers.

pistol on the overseer doesn’t help for the stand and shoot reaction since the range is 12": you need naphta bombs: the range is under 9 so when the naphta bomb is fired during the stand and shoot, fireglaives don’t have the -1 to hit for long range. It doesn’t work with pistol.

sam585:

You need something fast and strong to clear out the weakened units. Even with all of that shooting it is meaningless if but 1 guy is left standing.

I would throw down an Irondaemon to deal with demon princes, solo heroes, etc.

Baggronor:

Lists like this polarize the game which leads to extreme games against the clock - can they get to your guns before you shoot them all down. You might enjoy it but most people find it stressful and dull, even if they win.

If someone has a fast, hard-hitting army or multiple scout units/flying heroes etc you could be in trouble as you have few mobile counters. DE peg lords or multiple Tzeentch heroes for example will be all over your war machines straightaway as you have no-one to intercept them - and one-hit weapons like Deathshriekers are unlikely to kill them in time through the 3+ wards/charmed shields, etc, meaning you risk expending too much firepower on them while their army runs at you. And there’s the obvious Purple Sun ftw.

It’ll win some games but no friends :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: and I doubt experienced tournament players will find it challenging. Its a game of movement, add some moving units - ID/Destroyer/double Tau’ruks to guard those machines.

Murmaider:

Thanks everyone. Here’s what I’ve changed it to. The other list was boring and not enough to finish units once I has shot them up.

Sorcerer-Prophet: Charmed Shield; Talisman of Preservation; Arabyan Carpet; Level 4 Wizard

Infernal Castellan: Black Hammer of Hashut; Dragonhelm; The Other Trickster’s Shard; shield; Battle Standard

Hobgoblin Khan: Warrior Bane; light armour; shield; Giant Wolf

Hobgoblin Khan: Tormentor Sword; light armour; shield; Giant Wolf

Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Chalice of Blood and Darkness

35 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: fireglaives; Deathmask (Naphtha bomb); musician; standard bearer (Banner of Swiftness)

8 Bull Centaur Renders: additional hand weapons; Bull Centaur Ba’hal; musician; standard bearer (Razor Standard)

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher

Magma Cannon

Hellcannon

sam585:

Every Legion of Azgorh list I see is different, and that is one of the reasons why I love this army. Your army is very beefy, and don’t forget your prophet gets a look out sir from the warmachines, and/or the Infernal Guard. Might be a cool tactic to march your IG foreward, and when the time is right, fly your prophet up to your IG to start throwing out magic death.