In need of advice from interested hobbyists and potential customers! Would you please help me out?
Earlier today I finished a couple of 10x5 cm flatsculpts, intended for rolling pin/cylinder seal duty. To get the best possible results, I’ve contacted Zealot Miniatures who will handle the sculpts. Professionals do it best and with least hassle, after all, and my skills are not up to the task of precisely translating the flatsculpts onto a 3 cm in diameter cylinder.
The thing is cost, and what people will use each of the two reliefs for:
The first relief, Triumph & Thralldom, is very specific in nature, depicting what looks to be a couple of historic episodes:
While the second wall panel, Four Reliefs, is made in four quarters and generic in nature, depicting general mythological and sacrifice scenes scenes. It is intentionally quartered so as to give 4 different images, each of which can be press-molded alone into a green stuff surface:
Now, if you were to buy these when released, how much would you use them?
Imagine that both were produced as rolling pins. Would you replicate the Triumph & Thralldom scene/s more than once on scenery? Or would you just use it as for a one-off piece?
I’d like to know this, because tooling the flatsculpts into rolling pins cost extra. which will show up in the price. Four Reliefs will be tooled into a rolling pin no matter what since the patterns can be repeated over and over and scattered all about scenery, but what about Triumph & Thralldom? How would you use it?
Would you rather see that Triumph & Thralldom be made into a standard resin piece, i.e. a wall which you buy and just glue onto a terrain piece, instead of a rolling pin? It’d be cheaper for one-off pieces.
Input wanted, ladies and gentlemen. :hat off
PS. Whatever form these gets released in, in the end, you have my full legal permission to replicate them or parts of them in green stuff moulds or whatever for your and your mates’ hobby needs, including for commission sculpts of your own. DS.
Hmm, I think T&T could be used multiple times; if used for basing it would be easy for someone to use the roller to print it out and then cut that print up to hide the repetition. I think it would also be trivial for someone to cut a print up and rearrange to make their own scenes. People could also break up the repetition by interspersing the reliefs when they print them.
So all in all I guess I think from a hobby perspective it’d be nicer to have them both as rollers; but that really depends on costs. If there is a large disparity in the price of a roller vs a flat piece, then flat piece might be better.
Actually, thinking about it, if it came down to one as a roller and one as a flat piece, I think the reliefs might be better as the flat piece and T&T as the roller as people are more likely to use the relief as a single piece rather than just part of it while people might want a small part of T&T (e.g. decorating warmachine barrels, decorating the hulls of ships for MoW/US/etc, and so forth) in which case it’d be easier for them to have the reliefs as a flat piece that they can cut into four reliefs and use T&T to print out only the bit needed.
I know I basically already said allot of this on your main blog (saw that thread first), but I think it would be allot more versatile as a plate or stamp. Easier to work with or to replicate individual pieces, I could see lifting individual things from Four Reliefs to plaster all over terrain or to make cool pieces of rubble (or large banners) and smaller details on Triumph and Thralldom could be lifted to decorate armor and all kinds of stuff! and of course it would be easy going to just glue it right to a wall and paint it (as opposed to having learn to use a pattern roller, which to my dismay was not as super easy as I had hoped it would be working with some Green Stuff World rollers).
I think Triumph and Thralldom could definitely work just fine as a repeating fresco, but it�?Ts a little too busy and chaotic for my taste to repeat over and over like you would with a roller. I love the piece, I�?Td definitely use it a fresco and try and stamp all the cool little details on it over anything I could- but personally there�?Ts just too many characterful details to use as a repeating piece, they just seem much too specific (and awesome) to just copy over and over again around the same building or across one long wall.
I think, like Carcearion said, that flat stamps would be easier. Depending of the hobbyist needs, he uses a stamp to produce the wanted parts of the fresco and glue them were needed.
So, for me, don’t bother to do expensive rolling pin but do many flat stamps.
