[Archive] Dogs of War Army Book Play Test Version 1

BilboBaggins:

It’s Here.

After months of arguing, pouting, finger pointing and second guessing we have finally finished the Army Book for release.

You can get it by clicking the link below.

[size=Medium]Dogs of War Army Book Play Test Version 1.[/size]

If you use the list please contact us with comments, errors (spelling/grammar/layout) game results, how the units fared against similar pointed units, what your opponent thought about the list.

Remember this is the first play test version of the list. For those who don’t think they want to play a Dogs of War Army there are all the Regiments of Renown for those who want to try out those units in your armies.

We need as much data on this army list to make the army balanced Not a push over but also not over powered. All comments will be heard and after revisions made it is possible version 2 for play testing will be released in January. We are taking our time in play testing to make sure that the data isn’t thrown off by a few good or bad games.

Please send all comments should be sent to dogsofwar@hotmail.co.uk.

Willmark:

Awesome I wasn’t even able to take a peek at this! Check it out guys.

Tarrakk Blackhand:

Awesome book Bilbo! Looks like official stuff. Should be fun to play test it. It also looks like you didn’t miss anyone! 73 pages is more than I thought at first, and the fluff is awesome too!

Can’t wait to play test it. (More figures to buy!)

BilboBaggins:

The full book when released should be around 120 pages (slightly smaller than Warriors of Chaos).

cornixt:

I’m not sure what to make of it. Is it meant to be the current list with magic items and special characters? Because that is what it looks like, with only the occasional difference thrown in. There is a hell of a lot of stuff in there, so I have skimmed it really.

No non-human generals? That is the number one thing the army needs besides magic items. The extra two pages of what are basically magic items seems a bit odd.

Renown points are plain confusing. I can see how they are meant to restrict the number of RoR, but with the numbers currently being used it would make almost no difference to armies of a specific size. You might as well just say you may have up to 2 RoR per 1000 points and it would barely affect anyone.

Having an extra hero just because of the Paymaster seems a bit silly since you can have several hero-level characters in RoR that don’t count towards your maximum anyway. Why not just make the paymaster an optional character anyway, fluffwise he doesn’t have to be present in the middle of every battle.

BilboBaggins:

I'm not sure what to make of it. Is it meant to be the current list with magic items and special characters? Because that is what it looks like, with only the occasional difference thrown in. There is a hell of a lot of stuff in there, so I have skimmed it really.

No non-human generals? That is the number one thing the army needs besides magic items. The extra two pages of what are basically magic items seems a bit odd.

Renown points are plain confusing. I can see how they are meant to restrict the number of RoR, but with the numbers currently being used it would make almost no difference to armies of a specific size. You might as well just say you may have up to 2 RoR per 1000 points and it would barely affect anyone.

Having an extra hero just because of the Paymaster seems a bit silly since you can have several hero-level characters in RoR that don't count towards your maximum anyway. Why not just make the paymaster an optional character anyway, fluffwise he doesn't have to be present in the middle of every battle.

cornixt
Email those comments to dogsofwar@hotmail.co.uk they will help.

I know the reasoning for human heroes is 2 fold.
1. That is the way of the old pdf list
2. The main area of the Mercenaries in the Fluff is Tilea and the Merchant Princes are human.

The Paymaster is part of the character of the Dogs of War Army (acts as Battle Standard) and since it is a required part of the army like the Bretonnian's BSB it made sense to make him a free hero choice.

The Brain:

I'm not sure what to make of it. Is it meant to be the current list with magic items and special characters?

cornixt
The special characters are not new they are from the Warhammer Chronicles 2003 they were ment to be used with the existing DOW list that originally appeared in WD and Warhammer Annual 2002. The only new thing is the magic Items.
I think the list is good as acompilation of existing rules, if you don't want to carryaround the 2 different Warhammer chronicle books, but as an army book I don't see the point. The only new thing you get is magic Items. If you don't have the Chronicle books all you are doing is swaping one pdf for another that is even longer one. Personally I would rather use the existing rules and not have to bother to convince an opponent to let me use some made up magic items with rules that already exist. It would be like playing Empire and telling the opponent that you want to use another armies magic Items. The DOW list really doesn't need more than the common magic items. The abilities of their special characters and ROR more than make up for it.

Dead Kennedy:

… Not bad. But it fails to colour very far outside of the existing lines of the army book. Some of the old rules that seem outdated (paymaster bodyguards still being a special choice).

A more entertaining take on the Regiments of Renown would be to take a page from the book of Privateer Press. Characters that change over time, realign themselves with new powers, gain new leaders, generally make the old regiments leap off the page in new ways. It’s been a long time since I’ve read the old RoR book, but the characters, magic weapons and other details appear the same. While the newer additions like magic items, general’s traits and such interested me, I tuned when it seemed like the same-old.

I miss non-human generals too. It’s a bit dull to think that the only races that would sell their swords for gold coins are humans and their buddies. There’s a lot of races that got cut out of the merc world as imagined in the old books. Particularly, consider more evil-aligned troops: I’d pick Hobgobbos as sellswords any day. Spice it up, show us something new in the world of goons for hire!

Look forward to seeing what becomes of this project. The Dogs of War deserve a fair shake these days, it would be awesome to see them take off and gain a fan following.