[Archive] Fighting Daemons

CD4LIFE:

Hey first time posting on here. I have been teaching a new guy at the shop how to play fantasy and even wrote his list for him. I am a decent tournament player, but for some reason am having a really tough time with daemons. Twice I lost because I setup one unit wrong without realizing it. However, a lot of the buffs we get such as panic etc daemons are immune to. He runs a soul grinder, a horde of blood letters a smaller unit of plaguebearers, 3 screamers, and 1 small, 2 independent blood crushers, a 10-20 man unit of horrors and each unit has one herald. He always takes lore of life.

Anyone else had problems with daemons? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Johnny-Crass:

I have played Daemons against a list quite like the one you listed. Double Magma-Cannon + Destroyer + Hashut= Win

Ashstorm nerfs lore of life like it is not even funny and the destroyer can clean up everything but the Bloods which can be easily thinned with double magma.

CD4LIFE:

What do you like out of hashut? I just realized that ashstorm makes things flammable. Also, do you like the Dark Chalice? Not bad in opponents phase.

Da Crusha:

Breath of hatred: use during first turn to give everyone hatred, its a RiP so can be potentially used for the rest of the game. curse of hashut is useful for sniping. ashstorm for a lot of stuff. flames of azgorh for killing things. Im not a big fan of the rest of the spells.

the chalice is a must. use all of your dispel dice and then activate to get rid of what they have left. use on your turn when you have many more dice then them.

Nurion:

Not only does Ashstorm make stuff flameable, but it allso makes your opponents hit you on a 5+ (unless you are fighting something with realy high WS), unable to charge you, take a dangerous terrain test if they want to move and limit your opponents magic phase.

I like the idea of casting ashstorm into close combat, targetting a herald with your castellan just to reveal you got killing blow from your black hammer of hashut! Combine that with Breath of Hatred and you got a realy good chance at killing him outright! :wink:

Johnny-Crass:

You only need Breath, Storm and Flames. Rest of the spells are kind of meh. But those spells are brilliant.

Baggronor:

Last night I ran this at 2400:

Daemonsmith (Death)

BSB

2 x Wolf Khans

20 IG

2 x 40 Hobgoblins, 5 wide

2 x Magma Cannons

2 x Deathshriekers

Iron Daemon

Skullcracker

Destroyer

Won (very) big. I’d recommend something similar against Daemons. The Skullcracker will put the fear of Hashut into Bloodletters.

CD4LIFE:

Man I love this site. I wish I could have talked to you guys earlier. I am making dumb mistakes I never would just because it’s a new army.

Last night I ran this at 2400:

Daemonsmith (Death)

BSB

2 x Wolf Khans

20 IG

2 x 40 Hobgoblins, 5 wide

2 x Magma Cannons

2 x Deathshriekers

Iron Daemon

Skullcracker

Destroyer

Won (very) big. I’d recommend something similar against Daemons. The Skullcracker will put the fear of Hashut into Bloodletters.

Baggronor