[Archive] FW CD, how much is too much?

Grimstonefire:

Hypothetically if GW were to make a set of CD warrior models, what do you think would be a reasonable price for a unit of 20?

Ignore their current prices for things, what do you think would be a realistic and reasonable price?

£35? ($58 USD)

Method:

I think for a unit of 20 will cost about 75 US unfortunately…

BilboBaggins:

A unit of 20 warriors should be around $30.00 US (I know Dwarf Warriors are $35.00 for 16) but would more likely be $44.00 (10 Empire State Troops are $22.00)

20 Blunderbuss should be $35.00 but again would be around $44.00.

Crube:

I can see them going for £40 a unit… with the same for Blunderbuss guys. I can only hope that things like HobGobs are a bit cheaper…

I assume we’re talking FW resin prices here. If we’re talking Standard GW plastics then I’d say about £18 for 10

Kera foehunter:

Well if there metal 65.00 Plastic 40.00

Zanko:

It depends on the quality of the models and the material, more for metal and less for plastics!

Basically I have the same suggestions like Kera!

:hashut

Pyro Stick:

I dont think Forge World will be making the core units. I think they will be making the heroes and sorcerors and maybe a war machine. I thought the reason they stopped chaos dwarfs in the first place was because no one was buying them and if they rereleased them with the core units having premium forge world prices then i can see the exact same thing happening again. But if FW DID end up making the warriors etc i would only spend around £20 max.

Baggronor:

How much is too much? I’m sure GW will make sure we find out :slight_smile:

I will only be buying anything if I really like it and I’m certain I couldn’t make one myself. And even then, only if the price doesn’t offend my eyes. Which it usually does.

Grimstonefire:

I’m always curious about how people price resin things.

It is cheaper than metal for sure, but not as cheap as plastic.  But then both metal and plastic are overpriced!

My feeling is that somewhere around £1.25 to £1.60 a model is reasonable for resin, £0.75 to £1 for plastic.  Maybe £1.70 to £2 for metal?  Obviously this depends on the quality and nature of the models, goblins/ small models for instance would be on the cheap end, chaos warriors/ bigger models on the expensive end.  As a general idea I think +20% for really high quality models, -20% for poor quality.

Edit: All above for regular sized 28mm scale infantry.

Baggronor:

My feeling is that somewhere around £1.25 to £1.60 a model is reasonable for resin, £0.75 to £1 for plastic. Maybe £1.70 to £2 for metal? Obviously this depends on the quality and nature of the models, goblins/ small models for instance would be on the cheap end, chaos warriors/ bigger models on the expensive end. As a general idea I think +20% for really high quality models, -20% for poor quality.
£2 should be ok for rank and file metals made by a big company like GW. Someone like me churning them out in my shed would need to charge a little more :)

Swissdictator:

With the exceptionn of Hobgoblins, the price equivalent of their being a pewter army… if they’re high quality. That’s right about the peak of what I’d pay. I’d like to see Hobgoblins as plastic or cheap… due to the quantity some will take.

Though I would like core to be a bit cheaper…

BilboBaggins:

At one Games Day I attended my darling wife asked why they were using metal models instead of plastic in the free paint a model section. She was told that metal models were cheaper than plastic and this was before the latest increase in the barrel of oil.

Crube:

The thing is, initially, the price per model for metal is considerably cheaper. THe cost of one mold for a metal model is something like 10000 times cheaper than a plastic one. The fun comes when you start to actually produce models from said molds.

Each metal mold will generally produce 8-12 (ish) models per cast. Of the same pose. A plstic mold can produce a unit of 20 models, with command options, in one press.

In order to produce a unit of 20 (for sake of argument) Goblins, You’d need 1 (maybe 2) platic molds, or 22-25 metal ones for all the components.

Also, bear in mind that molds for metal minis have a tendancy to wear out depressingly quickly…

The molds for plastics are much harder wearing. Remember the OLD land Riader. released in what 1984 ish… the molds became unusable in 1996. There were casting issues on models released in 1996 that required the molds to be recut the same year.

Short term, metal is cheaper to produce, longer term, or greater volume, it’s plastic all the way

Tarrakk Blackhand:

By the time GW gets to making our army book and figures, expect to pay $200 a box…but by that time minimum wage will be $20/hour.

GRNDL:

And all money is printed in nice friendly colours, like blue, purple, orange and red… Okay, maybe some green too!

Tarrakk Blackhand:

Sounds like our current Canadian money.

But I bet Ontario will make a law by then that we’ll all carry coins.

Kera foehunter:

I suggest that they make them out of metal since we waited this long !!!

Border Reiver:

I friend of mine used to work for a company that made resin models (tanks and vehicles, but the theory is the same). He said that the reason that resin models cost so much more than the plastic equivalent was the moulds. Apparently a mould for a resin model only lasts about 12-15 casts before it starts to lose its integrity and details start getting lost. Then you’ve got to scrap the mould and get a new one.

This is one reason why FW resin models cost so much.

Tarrakk Blackhand:

I suggest that they make them out of metal since we waited this long !!!!!

Kera
How about gold...and mail them to us for free?

BilboBaggins:

I suggest that they make them out of metal since we waited this long !!!!!

Kera
How about gold...and mail them to us for free?

Tarrakk Blackhand
Not gold, but free would be nice since we have been promoting them for so long.