Bolg:
My only concern is that a maximum of three crewmembers makes the Ogre Slave on the Dreadquake inadmissable to this competition, which is unfortunate. Is it possible, Nico, to change the ruling to be "If the miniature is a Forgeworld or Games Workshop miniature that comes stock with four crew, than it is permitted"? Or something similar?You can just leave out one of the other crew members from the pic and include the ogre.
khedyarl
zobo1942:
This may be a silly question, but if we use ThommyH’s rulebook as our Chaos Dwarf ‘canon’ (hahaha), would the ‘Warmachines’ be anything listed under ‘Doom Harness’, ‘Doom Cannon’ and ‘Infernal Engines’?
Just curious…
Lord Aldades:
Hmmm, where did I put my Swivel Guns 
Nicodemus:
Exactly.My only concern is that a maximum of three crewmembers makes the Ogre Slave on the Dreadquake inadmissable to this competition, which is unfortunate. Is it possible, Nico, to change the ruling to be "If the miniature is a Forgeworld or Games Workshop miniature that comes stock with four crew, than it is permitted"? Or something similar?You can just leave out one of the other crew members from the pic and include the ogre.
khedyarl
Bolg
Kera foehunter:
Hummmmmmmmmm War machine
clam:
it kinda sucks that there is all of this debate over cool bases specifically for the hellcannon. that thing has a huge base now and if we decorate it so it won't be boring then we'll be penalized. other warmachines dont come with bases so its not as big of a deal, but the hell cannon specifically has to have a big base now.You are so right - and you got to ask yourself one question - does it actually makes any difference? Why is it the organizer seems so strict on these matter's every single time? If it's clear from the start, what can it possible harm, that a guy/girl want to spend time on a base as well? We all know that what a great base can do to the overall apperance of a miniature, so how can that be such a bad thing?
on the other hand, I know the competition is about making a warmachine and not about making cool decorations.
Da Crusha
cornixt:
What I am hearing here is “I like to have larger scenic bases and the rules don’t allow it” or “I have a small model and want to make it seem more impressive with a big base”.
We want this to be about the models, not a scene with a war machine in it. The category is wide as it is, you’ve got rockets, cannon, flame throwers all in it. If you can’t fulfill a simple base requirement then you have much bigger problems.
Zanko:
My entry (so nothing extraordinary happens) will be a scratched build one with an ordinary base (of unknown size yet)! 
:hashut
Ghrask Dragh:
Do Golems count? and if so whats the correct base size?
You know, for the miniature I will plan forever and a day then not enter and keep my record of being one of the longest standing members never to have entered a Golden Hat competition (Damn my poor time managment!!!)
:cheers
Hashut’s Blessing:
The rules are simple - the inability to accept those rules is what is taking the fun out of the competition. It’s not a new requirement and is fully expected. We’re not saying “Make the base as bland as possible”, just that it shouldn’t overwhelm the miniature being judged. It is an aid to the model - think of a 20mm based character: a textured paint with drybrush, a couple of rocks and a tuft and turf would be fine without detracting and the same principle is due here, just with larger numbers of tuft/turfs/stones or whatever you choose…
End of the day, we produce the competition, place rules to create a level playing field, all competitions (not just ours) have boundaries, it’s not a difficult one to stick to and it’s not one that’s appeared suddenly. I’ve had a long day and apologise if I seem a bit short of temper, but it’s tiring seeing the same complaints come up every time when it’s nothing to complain about 
Ghrask: I’d say probably not, but I’ll wait for another staffer to comment. They’re not warmachines as such and don’t use crew is my thinking is all.
Ghrask Dragh:
Thanks HB, I can now not enter anything with confidence 
Look forward to this one though, the new forgeworld stuff is going to make this one great
:cheers
Hashut’s Blessing:
As I said - long day and at a guess. If it’s a mech-golem and has a handler it is a machine of war, so it depends on the style as well, I guess! Best to get another staffer to comment though
Grimstonefire:
Most fanlists these days have a Troop Type listed don’t they?
I can’t imagine there should be problems figuring out if something is a warmachine or monster (mount) based on a specific list.
Not that I care much about how others base their warmachines, but purely as a point of conversation, the Golden Daemon rules for the vehicle category:
Although most of these models tend not to be supplied with a base, it is quite acceptable for you to mount the vehicle on a modest base (no more than 20mm larger than the vehicle itself).
Thommy H:
Unit Type isn’t a useful rule of thumb when one of the signature Chaos Dwarf “war machines” is actually a Monster.
Grimstonefire:
To be honest Imo this should purely be for units that are described in their unit type as warmachines. Takes out the hellcannon, ass cannon and any sort of monster people want to create.
Put everything on a base no larger than 20mm bigger than the machine on all 4 sides as per the GD rules for vehicles. Perhaps allow 50mm on one side for crew.
Obviously with some abstract ruling for people doing flying war machines or those that would be unbalanced any other way etc.
Anything else, if people don’t like it, paint it up anyway and put in in your blogs! Simples.
Thommy H:
Takes out the hellcannon, ass cannon and any sort of monster people want to create.Why is that a good thing?
Blue in VT:
Wow… Relax all it’s just a painting contest…and with this level of vitriol it’s one I’m not sure I’m interested in being a part of. There is obviously some history here that I’m not aware of…and frankly don’t care about. It’s time to set aside ego and pick up paint brushes.
Can’t we all just get along?
:cheers have a beer and chill.
Blue
Grimstonefire:
Why is it a bad thing???
If people want to start a contest for monsters right now they can?? Feel free.
I never understood that really.
Staff decided this is for warmachines. Not monsters. End of as far as I am concerned.
The hellcannon is just an annoying technicality. We had this problem last time actually, with things that should just have been monsters.
Thommy H:
The hellcannon is just an annoying technicality.Or it's something that makes the unit interesting. And the staff haven't decided it's for "war machines" in the sense of the Unit Type "War Machine", hence why it's been clarified that the Hellcannon and Ass Cannon are allowed. Which is the whole reason I pointed out that citing the Unit Type in the case of units in fanlists is not a helpful distinction. Creating a hypothetical situation where this contest is using that as a prerequisite for entering a unit is really neither here nor there. There are some monsters that can be entered already.
Bolg:
Wow... Relax all it's just a painting contest...and with this level of vitriol it's one I'm not sure I'm interested in being a part of. There is obviously some history here that I'm not aware of...and frankly don't care about. It's time to set aside ego and pick up paint brushes.I'll drink to that (:
Can't we all just get along?
:cheers have a beer and chill.
Blue
Blue in VT