Doombeard:
Yeah seeing a Dwarf army in action for a change was pretty nice. I can’t believe Daine was played by Billy Conolly =)
Grimstonefire:
Yeah seeing a Dwarf army in action for a change was pretty nice. I can't believe Daine was played by Billy Conolly =)They probably thought "a dwarf from the north..." Scotland obviously!! Lol.
Doombeard
What did you think of their battle strategy btw?
Willmark:
I’ll be taking my chaos dwarf beardlings to see it but I have little faith it will be good after the Desolation of Smaug snore fest.
In general they are good fantasy movies, bad Tolkien movies. I understand the limitations of film and all but some things just don’t make sense. Then to add that DoS was slow as hell?
The LoTR movies at least had some flow despite them butchering the plot at points.
Morgrim Blackbeard:
I am an old Tolkien fan read the hobbit when I was 12 in 1983 and have been afan boy since. To me all of the PJ movies have been an adaption so i dont get my knickers in a twist over them. I go and purely enjoy them for what they are. Yes Legolas was cringeworthy but i was always a dwarf man and Billy Connolly on his warpig was magnificent. It wasnt the noble sombre Dain i loved- and was my favourite Tolkien character along with Bullroarer Took- but it was a great dwarf character!
Helblindi:
I liked the movie overall, it was good entertainment and I’ve read the book some 15 years ago so I remember none of the details (except that the wargs were intelligent and didn’t carry orks).
That said, a couple of things bothered me a bit:
-CGI: Thranduil’s mount was so obviously CGI when in the same scene with actual horses. That seemed pretty weak after everything else the CGI crew had pulled off.
-Orks marching by day. WTF was the point then of breeding Uruk-Hai in LotR, if not for them to be able to march by day? Ok, it was a cloudy day in the hobbit, but still…
-Galadriel: she annoys me in any movie. The most beautiful woman in all of Middle-Earth, and then they take Cate Blanchett for that?? She didn’t even have to be in the Hobbit, so that bothered me to no end, although she was almost cool when battling Sauron.
-The rams appear out of nowhere when Thorin needed them. They were cool, but there should have been some ram-cavalry in the dwarf army before, this was just stupid.
Morgrim Blackbeard:
I bet the ram cav appears in the extended version
Fuggit Khan:
I really enjoyed the movie, I decided to treat myself and saw it in 3d on an IMAX screen. It’s not really a ‘Hobbit’ movie, but I was willing to overlook most of the story line changes and sat back to enjoy the show. But a few things really did bother me, one of which is what Helbindi mentioned:
-Orks marching by day. WTF was the point then of breeding Uruk-Hai in LotR, if not for them to be able to march by day? Ok, it was a cloudy day in the hobbit, but still…The average moviegoer would not of known this little fact about Orks, and maybe it’s a minor point…but it really stood out to me as a sore thumb.
Helblindi
I also think it’s annoying that the Orks are always depicted marching with a vast armory of impressively wicked looking polearms, but they never use them.
Odd also that the trolls are just comic sidekicks, hell, even Thranduils mount seemed tougher and killed more in combat than the Trolls did. Oh well.
But I loved Dain, he was the closest thing to a Chaos Dwarf I think…tusks, utter contempt for elfs and a nasty temper. He was awesome!
And it’s been many, many years since I read The Hobbit…but wasn’t Dain the one who killed Azog?
Dînadan:
And it's been many, many years since I read The Hobbit...but wasn't Dain the one who killed Azog?Don't have RotK to hand, but I believe he did, but that was outside the gates of Moria decades before the events of the Hobbit - in the book the Orcs and Wolves were led by his son Bolg, and iirc he's slain by Beorn.
Fuggit Khan
As for orcs marching by day, they are capable of it, it's just torture for them (in TTT the Moria and Mordor orcs are able to keep pace with the Isengard Uruk-hai but are flagging and in pain as I recall). Unless I misremember, in the book it does say that there was heavy cloud cover and massive swarms of bats that blocked out the sun enough for them to fight the BotFA; not having seen the film, I can't weigh in on whether PJ put enough in though, lol.