AGPO:
Who/what the hell is he? Fluff please!
Lord Zarkov:
Malal’s the Chaos God of Anti-Chaos
He’s worshipped by people who hate chaos so much they use it against itself and gains power from people turning against a vastly more powerful authority.
GW stopped supporting him (officially) after a lawsuite involving the authors of a comic he was in; it was this that made GW so obsessive about their IP.
you can find more info here: http://www.freewebs.com/malal-lives/index.htm
AGPO:
Skrag the Slaughterer:How cool is that!
I have yet to acquire copies of the two White Dwarf magazines mentioned below, once I have a more substantial piece of writing will appear here, in the meantime here's something nicked from good old Wikipedia...
The renegade ogre Skrag the Slaughterer was also introduced as a follower of Malal. A short background story told his story as being cast out from his tribe for stealing a "starmetal" axe, with Malal subsequently guiding Skrag to a chaos dwarf hold, forcing them to forge him an armour and then slaughtering them all in the name of Malal. White Dwarf: UK Edition (83) featured a WFB mini-scenario "The Crude, the Mad and the Rusty", pitting the lone Chaos Dwarf survivor of this massacre, aided by two goblin fanatics and a mechanical warrior, against Skrag. Skrag has since been recast as a devout follower of the Ogre god known as "The Great Maw".
Kera foehunter:
Sweet thanks guys
Malificant:
malaal is essentially anti chaos. the fifth chaos god, designed by the same guy who did the fimir. when the lawsuit happened, both went bye bye.
however, malaal made an unexpected comeback under the radar several times. the first was in the dark shadows campaign when any reference to “the dark master” was made, they were talking about be-lakor. if you notice, belakor’s magic table is very simmilar to the dark emmisary. now, belakor, apart from being a mere daemon prince and herald of the gods is a funny adaptation of malaal. his backround is very similar, and he hates archaon and the four gods because he beleives he should be their champion not archaon.
AGPO:
The uber conspiracy theory for WFB, apart from the one that all the mega campaigns are fixed
Grimstonefire:
Surely a god of anti chaos, would be a chaos god of Order? Which in itself doesn’t make sense.
Order is the opposite to chaos.
Malificant:
exactly. if i were to do a chaos mortal army it would be an army of justice. id use an arch angel as a daemon prince, and probably have everything in white and silver. probably either mark undivided or slaanesh.
Ravel:
Anti-chaos isn’t order, it is simply nothing. Much like anti-order isn’t chaos; it is also simply nothing. Very few things in this world are dualistic.
If I recall correctly, Malaal isn’t even anti-chaos. He’s anti-feeling. Since the chaos gods embody primal emotion, He was simply the ruination of every feeling we have.
That and he had a kicking dig. What I wouldn’t do to have daemonettes chained spread eagle to my walls.
cornixt:
Malal was more the god that represented the tendency of chaos to destroy itself. In many ways he was more chaotic, having no temples or ceremonies. His followers tended to kill each other, because they killed anyone who followed a chaos god, of which malal was one…
Ishkur Cinderhat:
Aye, which is the reason why there are no armies dedicated to Malal out there…
His colours were black and white, I think the symbol was actually a skull split vertically into black and white halves.
In the last edition Chaos Marines codex, there was a colour scheme for the “Sons of Malice” who had exactly these colours. Many think that this might be a pun for those who have not given up Malal yet although he’s gone for good from the official fluff. ^^
Hobgoblyn:
Malal just strikes me as a rather lame and cheesy way for someone to have nifty Chaos powers without being a ‘bad guy’. It is fully for those ‘I want to be a demon, but I’m really a hero!’ crowd.
Quite lame, I am glad they got rid of it.
It would be one thing if it was simply a spirit of rebellion, afterall Chaos is not chaotic or anarchist in the very least. It has a rigid power structure and demands complete and total allegience and obedience as much as the “empire” does.
But, there’s actually information saying that Malal followers just help Inquisitors and such hunt down and destroy other Chaos warriors so… yeah, its just for someone who wanted to play a Chaos Warrior in a RPG where they were hunting down Chaos.
Malificant:
i thought malal’s symbol was a skull with a small dot or circle above it?
wallacer:
Malal was always a kind of weird God.
He seemed to be a combination of the human tendency towards self destruction and self loathing, which he then applied both to himself and to Chaos more broadly.
Lord Zarkov:
Surely a god of anti chaos, would be a chaos god of Order? Which in itself doesn't make sense.Anti Chaos is just the simplest (and catchiest) way to say it. Longhand he is the Chaos God that represents the Self-Destructive side of Chaos that destroyes and consumes itself
Order is the opposite to chaos.
Grimstonefire
Anti-chaos isn't order, it is simply nothing. Much like anti-order isn't chaos; it is also simply nothing. Very few things in this world are dualistic.Nah that was the Gods of Law, the Opposites of Chaos, but whose plans were just as (if not more) horiffic. (Constant Statis instead of constant Change)
If I recall correctly, Malaal isn't even anti-chaos. He's anti-feeling. Since the chaos gods embody primal emotion, He was simply the ruination of every feeling we have.
Ravel
That and he had a kicking dig. What I wouldn't do to have daemonettes chained spread eagle to my walls.Twas the Bloodthirster Chained Spread Eagled; the punishment for Slaanesh followers was worse, stuck immersed in a liquid with all their feelings removed. Then there was a plucked Lord of Change in a Bird Cage, that was cool.
Aye, which is the reason why there are no armies dedicated to Malal out there...Exactaly! (to all parts) There was also the 'Dreadaxe' which was named after (and had a simmilar purpose) to Kaleb Dark's axe; and the Chaos Furies; and the GD model a while back (the chaos champion with the toothy axe) there's been quite a few throwbacks.
His colours were black and white, I think the symbol was actually a skull split vertically into black and white halves.
In the last edition Chaos Marines codex, there was a colour scheme for the "Sons of Malice" who had exactly these colours. Many think that this might be a pun for those who have not given up Malal yet although he's gone for good from the official fluff. ^^
Ishkur Cinderhat
Malal just strikes me as a rather lame and cheesy way for someone to have nifty Chaos powers without being a 'bad guy'. It is fully for those 'I want to be a demon, but I'm really a hero!' crowd.Chaos is fairly anarchic, and it hardly has a 'rigid power stucture' as it's all about defeating your rivals to further yourself, even warriors of other gods (who may even have the same or simmilar goals as you) or those of the same god who you can defeat to increase your own power. It's the same on all levels, Beast, Mortal, Daemon, and even on the scale of the Gods themselves. Malal is just an extension and an embodyment of this, taking it a step further and (in true chaos fashion) twisting it into something new and extreme, to the extent where it is the defeat of your Chaotic Rivals to the point where all else is less importent.
Quite lame, I am glad they got rid of it.
It would be one thing if it was simply a spirit of rebellion, afterall Chaos is not chaotic or anarchist in the very least. It has a rigid power structure and demands complete and total allegience and obedience as much as the "empire" does.
But, there's actually information saying that Malal followers just help Inquisitors and such hunt down and destroy other Chaos warriors so... yeah, its just for someone who wanted to play a Chaos Warrior in a RPG where they were hunting down Chaos.
Hobgoblyn
i thought malal's symbol was a skull with a small dot or circle above it?Na it is the Bisected Skull as said before.
Malificant
Also for those that think the idea of a Chaos god of Anti-Chaos is a bit wierd; there was a Chaos God of Atheism
gIL^:
grim at the time of malal there was some 30 chaos gods, and he as made before tzeench and slannesh they made them to after the court case, only khorne and nurgle were around when malal was
ashur:
What about that “atheist” chaos god, the one who is oposed to the very same concept of god (Necoho??) Isnt he another one of the chaos gods who disapeared from fluff?
Canix:
Truely an Elric ala Michael Moorcock.
AGPO:
Didn’t GW do some Elric and Corum models many moons ago
Ingrown:
The “atheist” chaos god was Necoho, who was just sort of against religion, he was made to replace Malal along with Zuvassin, who was a sort of trickster god, used to pretend to be other gods to disapoint the followers, kinda cool really