Thommy H:
That's Thommy's way of saying, "Welcome to CDO! Thanks for joining and contributing!"Whoops, didn't realise that was his first post :P
But yes, we have heard of them! I think they are interesting. :)
Xander
cornixt:
Assuming it is a sliding scale from bad to good, I went for "Well…"
They are okay but lack a bit of detail in some places while overloaded in others. I’m not really a fan of the style either.
Grimstonefire:
I had to go for ‘well…’ also, the models themselves are well sculpted, but poorly posed. The bases however are awesome and I will probably base my CD army on them if GW gets round to doing some (or I make some decent warriors).
I like that he actually sculpted moustaches on dwarfs for a change.
Kera foehunter:
Time out !! tommy h !!
i see you need more ninja training!!
mattbird:
I… kinda like them. I think I like his sketches more than the actual models, which seem kind of static and too tall?
apocalypstia:
i would put them between well and cool, i can think of landfill full of minatures that come in worse than these. Decent enough to put on my table with proper paint… provided i can ever get around to painting up anything.
Then again context is everything:
If you have been around sculpting your own stuffs, making seemingly unique creations on an awesome scale - as some of the growing talent here then they are not so hot, esp if you were tainted by early works.
If your newish to re-creating/creating your own chaos dwarf collection and havent had success or experience in creating your own and you have a penchant for certain historical finesses then yeah they jump up the scale a bit.
If you like them Ghaust then by all means add them to your minions, give them your own flavor and make them jump up and slap the nay-saying masses into acceptance.
And yeppers there have been some scribor threads which may have been cloaked or otherwise easily missed, no worries. Sometimes i spend too much time sifting and not enough posting… hahahaha… just the way the bytes crumble my way i spose.
Thommy H:
If you have been around sculpting your own stuffs, making seemingly unique creations on an awesome scale - as some of the growing talent here then they are not so hot, esp if you were tainted by early works.Or you could compare them to other professionally produced miniatures, since that's what they are. Scibor always gets a free pass because people rate his work as if they're conversions or one-off scratch builds.
If your newish to re-creating/creating your own chaos dwarf collection and havent had success or experience in creating your own and you have a penchant for certain historical finesses then yeah they jump up the scale a bit.
dedwrekka:
Well, usually when someone's complaining about his stuff the models that get pointed to really are one off scratch builds and conversions.If you have been around sculpting your own stuffs, making seemingly unique creations on an awesome scale - as some of the growing talent here then they are not so hot, esp if you were tainted by early works.Or you could compare them to other professionally produced miniatures, since that's what they are. Scibor always gets a free pass because people rate his work as if they're conversions or one-off scratch builds.
If your newish to re-creating/creating your own chaos dwarf collection and havent had success or experience in creating your own and you have a penchant for certain historical finesses then yeah they jump up the scale a bit.
Thommy H
I wouldn't call it professional style, I'd call it studio style.
Grimstonefire:
I haven’t heard people complaining about the resin casts, only the mass produced space marine conversions.
There really wouldn’t be any reasons or excuses why the resin cast stuff should not be a good quality.
dedwrekka should know. 
Ghaust Mortium:
i would put them between well and cool, i can think of landfill full of minatures that come in worse than these. Decent enough to put on my table with proper paint.. provided i can ever get around to painting up anything.Well, actually I don't have any army for that matter. I have been following warhammer and 40k for about three years now, but the stuff is too ecxpensive for me at the time. the furthest I have gotten Is I bought an empire reinforcment battalion and a general. I also had some space marines, but I gave them to my friend has finally decided to go with wood elves. I have a problem with making up my mind sadly.
Then again context is everything:
If you have been around sculpting your own stuffs, making seemingly unique creations on an awesome scale - as some of the growing talent here then they are not so hot, esp if you were tainted by early works.
If your newish to re-creating/creating your own chaos dwarf collection and havent had success or experience in creating your own and you have a penchant for certain historical finesses then yeah they jump up the scale a bit.
If you like them Ghaust then by all means add them to your minions, give them your own flavor and make them jump up and slap the nay-saying masses into acceptance.
And yeppers there have been some scribor threads which may have been cloaked or otherwise easily missed, no worries. Sometimes i spend too much time sifting and not enough posting... hahahaha.. just the way the bytes crumble my way i spose.
apocalypstia
I think I will field an army of moscals, I guess. I like them better than the traditional chaos dwarfs (Hellcannon crew), or converted dwarfs(I suck at conversions). I like the proportions better. Much more realistic IMHO.
dedwrekka:
I haven't heard people complaining about the resin casts, only the mass produced space marine conversions.I just bought some and took pictures. I wouldn't claim to be an expert. Thanks though :cheers
There really wouldn't be any reasons or excuses why the resin cast stuff should not be a good quality.
dedwrekka should know. :)
Grimstonefire
It's just my inexpert opinion that the casts, while good, I wouldn't call professional. Professional casts would have more mould lines than Scibors, but it would have also hit the couple inside areas (detail around the inside of the arm and the inner portion of the cloak on the static Boyars) that can be hard to get without the use of something like a mould injection system or cutting the models into pieces. I'd just call it studio quality models. In the end, the pictures I gave are about the best evidence I can give for the good quality of the casts, the rest is just what you personally think about them. No one has to agree on what they think about them.
Hey, welcome to Chaos Dwarfs Online, we're Warhammer's biggest disagreement on the look of an army. Hats, Helms, Masks, and Moscals are all just personal takes on what you like and what you want your army to be.i would put them between well and cool, i can think of landfill full of minatures that come in worse than these. Decent enough to put on my table with proper paint.. provided i can ever get around to painting up anything.Well, actually I don't have any army for that matter. I have been following warhammer and 40k for about three years now, but the stuff is too ecxpensive for me at the time. the furthest I have gotten Is I bought an empire reinforcment battalion and a general. I also had some space marines, but I gave them to my friend has finally decided to go with wood elves. I have a problem with making up my mind sadly.
Then again context is everything:
If you have been around sculpting your own stuffs, making seemingly unique creations on an awesome scale - as some of the growing talent here then they are not so hot, esp if you were tainted by early works.
If your newish to re-creating/creating your own chaos dwarf collection and havent had success or experience in creating your own and you have a penchant for certain historical finesses then yeah they jump up the scale a bit.
If you like them Ghaust then by all means add them to your minions, give them your own flavor and make them jump up and slap the nay-saying masses into acceptance.
And yeppers there have been some scribor threads which may have been cloaked or otherwise easily missed, no worries. Sometimes i spend too much time sifting and not enough posting... hahahaha.. just the way the bytes crumble my way i spose.
apocalypstia
I think I will field an army of moscals, I guess. I like them better than the traditional chaos dwarfs (Hellcannon crew), or converted dwarfs(I suck at conversions). I like the proportions better. Much more realistic IMHO.
Ghaust Mortium
Border Reiver:
Hats, Assyrian style beards, and an Assyrian style of spreading terror…
While the figures are technically OK they do not match any of the visions I have of the Dawi Zharr - that and the crotch plate doesn’t match any style of armour that would actually be worn by someone who has to move and fight.
The Bases are top notch though and are definitely worth looking into.
Thommy H:
It's just my inexpert opinion that the casts, while good, I wouldn't call professional.Exactly. Why should anyone revise their expectations down? If someone is charging money for a product, I expect that product to be professionally made - that's what the word means.
He comes from a converting background, not a sculpting background, but the second he starts producing unique figures for sale he has to be judged against the Kev Whites, Andy Fosters, Felixes, Werner Klockes and even Tom Meiers of the industry, not Little Johnny EBay with his green stuffed conversions.
Loki:
I like the models they are something different that we have not seen beofre and i think that thats a good thing
Henroth:
Yes, this is a Deja Vu. :s
Oh my God, do we really need three threads about these terrible figures?
Thommy H
dedwrekka:
Ummm, no. First, you've taken my post out of context. What I said was that the casts aren't in the professional style, not that the sculpts aren't professional.It's just my inexpert opinion that the casts, while good, I wouldn't call professional.Exactly. Why should anyone revise their expectations down? If someone is charging money for a product, I expect that product to be professionally made - that's what the word means.
He comes from a converting background, not a sculpting background, but the second he starts producing unique figures for sale he has to be judged against the Kev Whites, Andy Fosters, Felixes, Werner Klockes and even Tom Meiers of the industry, not Little Johnny EBay with his green stuffed conversions.
Thommy H
Second, a lot of sculptors now come from a conversion background, because that's where skill with greenstuff starts for a lot of us. You overcome the problems and challenges with sculpting on the small scale, and then try the challenges of larger scales. Jes Goodwin has even said in an interview that he began his sculpting career with conversions. Also, most of his stuff for the past few years has been one off sculpts, not conversions (Those aren't really heroic scale "Marines").
Third, it's not really fair to compare artists, because it's just not what the art is about. You like it or you don't, who anyone thinks is better doesn't mean anything beyond what it means to them. Art should stand on it's own two feet, and I believe the sculpts by Scibor do that fairly well.
Thommy H:
I believe the sculpts by Scibor do that fairly well.I don't.
Zanko:
I just want to say … I like the minis. 
They are not so cool as the old 3rd edition GW ones, but nonetheless cool! :hat off
I want to ask if anyone (who ownes the Moscals) can post a pic with the Moscal and a GW mini together so that I/we can see the possible scale difference?!?!
:hashut
Scion:
I quite like then. Very “imperial”.
Kera foehunter:
need more Pirates
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