Lord_Nagash:
Hello everyone. I am new to the Chaos Dwarf army, but have been interested in them for a few years and finally have time to work on them.
My main inquiry is this. What are the basics or the “must haves” in a CD army and what are units to stay away from? Any help is invited and wanted.
Thanks.
Beastybeastbeats:
THINGS U NEED-
750 hobos
orcs of fire:
hi… the only way to start is to get some warriors seen as you cannot use anything else for your core choice,
Or get a bfsp set, that way you get warriors, night goblins (can be used as hobgoblins), spider riders (can be used as
wolf riders), a cannon, and loads of possibilities in the way of characters.
to decide what to get or use in a game, I usually use proxys so I know whether or not to buy the model - or convert.
Personally I would never use goblins in a CD army because we have hobgoblins.
However I think it depends on your playing style whether you want a hard hitting fast attack or whether you want to
just sit back and shoot.
who do you normally play against?
Swissdictator:
THINGS U NEED-That is a bit of an exageration... :P
750 hobos
Beastybeastbeats
Kera foehunter:
Cd warriors blunderbusses and a tons of hobgoblins and a hobgolin with bolt thower
a earth shaker canon to start out
Lord_Nagash:
Thank you for the input guys. I have seen the conversion videos and am pretty good with GS. I have used it in conversions for my Ogres. I do not see the point in paying for a Butcher when a bull with a GS gut works just as good and is CHEAPER!
I normally play against Dark Elves, Empire, Vampire Counts and Lizardmen.
I was going to make my CD out of the Dwarf box sets by using the same bodies, making the beards and using different heads. Has anyone done that yet, as I would like to see some pics of that work if possible.
two_heads_talking:
I was going to make my CD out of the Dwarf box sets by using the same bodies, making the beards and using different heads. Has anyone done that yet, as I would like to see some pics of that work if possible.just go to the conversions section of this website.. Not only have many people done exactly what you mention, but there are quite a few different styles..
Lord_Nagash
Grotsnik:
if you want an extremely cheap 2k army made with just one box of skull pass click the link below
https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/9790
Willmark:
Lord_Nagash- yeah there are few people that have done that here, in terms of using the [[BFSP]]… 
Xander:
1 or 2 units of Chaos Dwarf Warriors (HW&S)
1 or 2 units of Chaos Dwarf Blunderbussers
2+ Hobgoblin Bolt Throwers
1+ Chaos Dwarf Earthshaker Cannon(s)
Those are the essentials. 
Tarrakk Blackhand:
I would get the BFSP set, convert the pieces into the “Recommended” army list (As in Thunderers become Blunderbusses) and then try it out from there. Once you play a few games, you’ll know exactly where your units are weak and where to expand your troops.
However, the “Core” units, those being the standard Warriors, Blunderbusses and Hobgoblins/Hobgoblin Wolf Riders are always a good place to start as these units will be the backbone to your army. Why?
Warriors provide the main “muscle” to the army and you can make 2 units out of the BFSP box by using the 12 “Axe and Shield” Warriors and converting the 8 “Miners” to Heavy Weapons. Usually, you’ll need 10+ Warriors for a unit, and the 8 miners aren’t nearly enough. I was given an additional 2 miners from a customer of mine (I own Monster Hobbies in High River, Alberta, Canada) and that solved my problem. Also look for them at your local GW if they provide a “Make and Paint” course using them. OR, you could just move 2 Shield and Axe Warriors to the Miner’s unit.
Blunderbusses are the next strongest core unit, if not THE most powerfull in Warhammer. -with exception of range.
These guys fire in a 12" square and get strength bonuses based on ranks. (who’s standing behind whom.) Also, the Blunderbuss can fire through cover. So if an enemy is standing behind a wall, they still get shredded by the Blunderbuss. In fact, the only cover from a Blunderbuss is behind a building or behind a moutain. Blunderbusses are also effective against Tomb Kings as they quickly cut down ranks of skeletons in large numbers so that the Leich Priest can’t resurrect them.
Hobgoblins are an effective and cheap unit. Unlike Goblins that need 20+ to make a unit, Hobgoblins only require 10+. With the BFSP, you get 60 Goblins which you can convert into Hobgoblins. That can give you either 3 units of 20 or 6 units of 10. Hobgoblins can also ride wolves which give them mobility and speed for attacks. You just have to replace the BFSP spiders with wolves. I used Chaos hounds for mine. (Picture comming soon)
You can also convert some Hobgoblins into Hobgoblin sneaky gits. these guys carry 2 knives and get 2 attacks each. Set this up against your friends. They won’t be expecting the double attacks.
Hope this helps out and welcome to Chaos Dwarfs Online! :hat off
Kera foehunter:
Don’t use ninja !! they die to easy!!!
cornixt:
Check out the [[Sample Army Rosters]] and [[Battle for Skull Pass Conversion Rosters]]
Lord_Nagash:
Nice rosters. All this info has pretty much answered all my questions. Here is the sample list I was thinking of trying out.
CD Lord
Black Hammer of Hashut
Armor of the Furnace
213 points
CD Sorceror Lvl 2
Dispel scroll
125 points
CD Sorceror Lvl 2
Dispel scroll
125 points
CD Warriors x20 full command
Hw/Sh
War Banner
235 points
CD Warriors x20 full command
Hw/Sh
210 points
CD Warriors x21 (3 ranks of 7)
Hw/Sh
Blunderbuss
252 points
CD Warriors x21 (3 ranks of 7)
Hw/Sh
Blunderbuss
252 points
25 Hobgoblins
50 points
25 Hobgoblins
50 points
Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower
30 points
Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower
30 points
Black Orcs x20 full command
Shield
306 points
Death Rocket
80 points
Death Rocket
80 points
Bull Centaurs x5
Heavy Armor
105 points
Earthshaker Cannon
110 points
Total Points 2253
My gaming group allows up to 10 points over the max so I should be good there.
Quick question. Slaves under the names. What are they? I see people have tons of them and suddenly I have 1. …?
Ideas and comments welcomed.
Alan the evil:
You could try to find space for a BSB, maybe downgrading the expensive unit of black orcs: 6/8 of them close to CD infantry could work as well as a great block saving up a lots of points. BSB in a CD army it’s very important.
And Just another point
CD Warriors x21 (3 ranks of 7)When you pay for a blunderbusses you also swap it for shield and you still have heavy armor
Hw/Sh
Blunderbuss
Lord_Nagash:
Thanks for the input. I was copy and pasting from the warriors and just wasn’t paying attention to the Sh part.
I will look through and see what I can skimp on. The only reason I had the large group of Black Orcs is because, well the CD can’t march if I am not mistaken so I need something out front to draw fire and maybe even hold combat for a turn.
Zanko:
Quick question. Slaves under the names. What are they? I see people have tons of them and suddenly I have 1. .....?The Slaves are for fun! :)
Lord_Nagash
Lord_Nagash:
I see. That is cool. I just finished my first BFSP conversion and when I get some time on my hands I will take a picture of it and post it to get some comments.
Has anyone ever used these as chaos dwarfs?
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DW-211
I think they look cool and would work nicely with some minor conversions to the weapons. They also come 24 in a box for $40. Not bad I think.
I also found these as hobgoblins. They are a little expensive though.
http://campaign-game-miniatures.0catch.com/gr-hg002.jpg
