qwe50:
The last 100 points could be a cheap Hobgoblin hero with heavy armour, shield and a great weapon and 10 hobgoblin archers more.
Da Crusha:
changed it again
CD Lord on great taurus 450
obsidian blade and armour of ghazrakh
Chaos Dwarf Hero shield great weapon 111
armour of the furnace
Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer Lvl 1 2 scrolls 115
Core
25 x Chaos Dwarf warrior @280
FC warbanner
20 x Chaos Dwarf warrior @210p
FC
14 x CD w/ Blunderbuss @168p
14 x CD w/ Blunderbuss @168p
21 naked hobgobbos
10 naked hobgobbos
10 naked hobgobbos
10 x Hobgoblin Wolf Rider
mus, light armor shield bows
10 x Hobgoblin archers @50p
Special
2 x Bolt Thrower @60p
2 x Bolt Thrower @60p
21 sneaky gits 105pts
Rare
Earthshaker @110p
Earthshaker @110p
so I got rid of the bull centaurs because they werent completed yet and put the points into another earthshaker and a couple of troops… here are my results
my first loss was really close and some good luck on his part allowed him the win.
qwe50:
Top half - Well done m8
Looks like it payd off to take a beardy list for that DE winner
Bolg:
I always wonder about those naked hobgobs… I think best thing to do is paint a unit myself and see waht they can do. (but I would give them shields at least.)
good overall score. But now you have to finish those centaurs!! (;
Da Crusha:
thanks guys
qwe50: yeah that guy actually always, and I mean always brings a beardy list. he had great success with a VC army that had 2 units of bloodknights and a zombie dragon in a 2250 list.
Bolg: the naked hobgobbos are just for bait and switch tactics and redirecting and sucking up missile fire and negating ranks and capturing table quarters, well I guess they do a lot LOL. I definitely have to finish up those bull centaurs, this is the 3rd tourney I took Chaos dwarfs to and couldn’t field a BC unit because they weren’t done. it wont happen again!:hat
I was pretty surprised I got such a high composition score especially with every one so afraid of the 2 earthshakers, 4 Bolt throwers and the Great taurus. my buddy said it must be because Im using chaos dwarfs and that in itself would grant me good comp. probably true
Bolg:
Thats what I said, I should try them out myself. I took 10 hobgobs with bows to a resent tournament and they did wonders. I wonder what 20 hobgobs with shield could do (:
Composition points is what you should get if you play CD’s even if you bring 2 earthshakers (:
qwe50:
I take 2 or 3 units of 10 x hobgob archers but i use them same way - they are still only 50p and the bows are nice to have against many opponents - wild riders, out riders, marauder horses …
How did u Sneaky Gits do ?
I havent used mine in a long time and that’s a bid sad because i have 30 and they are so characteristic for the DC army.
Da Crusha:
sneaky gits didnt do too much at all during the tournament. the first game they just stood and protected a flank, the second game they fled from panic, so they really need to be kept close to the general, the third game I chose flee as a charge reaction and they failed to rally, again they should have been close to the general. during play testing though they attacked a unit of empire swordsmen and detachment and did like 9 wounds all on their own. I reallly like them and consider them as one of my elites, but because of their low leadership they really need to be near the general.
Da Crusha:
I wrote up a new list for some upcoming tournaments, kublacon and the Quake City Rumble GT,
leadership2.org
I also noticed that someone else besides me has registered as a CD player so Im anxious to see how he plays and how his army looks, I hope he doesnt make my army look bad, the QCR always has incredible looking armies…
I have already asked the QCR if it would be ok to bring the indy gt list and they said no, its ok Im happy writing RH lists. enough rambling here is the new tourney list…
Pts Qty TROOPS
220 1 Chaos Dwarf Lord obsidian blade, armor of ghazrakh
230 Great Taurus
Heros
111 1 Chaos Dwarf Hero great weapon shield armor of the furnace
115 1 Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer Lvl 1 2X dispel scrolls
Core
271 24 Chaos Dwarf warrior full command warbanner
210 20 Chaos Dwarf warrior full command
168 14 CD w/ Blunderbuss
168 14 CD w/ Blunderbuss
40 20 Hobgoblin
26 13 Hobgoblin
170 10 Hobgoblin Wolf Rider light armor shield short bows musician
Special
115 21 Sneaky git musician
80 1 Death Rocket
2 Chaos Dwarf Crew
30 1 Bolt Thrower
2 Hobgoblin Crew
30 1 Bolt Thrower
2 Hobgoblin Crew
30 1 Bolt Thrower
2 Hobgoblin Crew
Rare
110 1 Earthshaker
3 Chaos Dwarf Crew
126 6 Bull Centaurs additional hand weapons shield heavy armour
676 CHARACTERS
1053 CORE
285 SPECIAL
236 RARE
2250 TOTAL
I decided to drop the great weapons on my BCs and instead use Add’l hand weapons because there will be 17 skaven and 11 Dark elves at the qcr, I also added the mus to the sneaky gits and dropped one bolt thrower and added the deathrocket specifically to fight skaven. since I got rid of the Great weapons on the BC unit I decided to stay with the obsidian blade to deal with the high armored unit that most armies bring. now I just have to make sure my BC’s are finished. It shouldnt be hard the qcr is in june and kublacon is in may.
qwe50:
"You may NOT use Special Characters. This includes any Regiment of Renown consisting entirely of characters (and any mounts they may have). EXCEPTION: Dogs of War armies may use DoW special characters."
Do this meen you can use ROR regiments like Lumpin Croop’s fighting cocks ?
also i don’t like the taurus in a tournement army - i have tryed it many times and it’s just not good enough (and you DE opponents will shoot him down to easy)
I actually like the list i made as a proposel against Lizardmen
it only need a few changes to be a good tourney list.
Also you have 250p more. Here are a proposal you can look at.
Proposal for a tournement list.
The list is ofcause based around the hard hitting tank BC lord but i have added more magic off and defence (good against both SK and DE) and a big unit BB’s because they are so good gainst skaven (BOOOOM what ranks LOL)
4 bolts have been replaced with a small unit Black Orcs because of comp scores.
I have taken the staff of sorcery but if you want you can take dispel / power scrolls or the black gem.
Chaos Dwarf hero (general) @ 111
with armour of the furnace, shield and a great weapon
BC lord @ 241
with armour of gazarakh, gauntlets of bazarakh, talisman of protection and a great weapon
Sorcerer @ 150
level 2, with a staff of sorcery.
Sorcerer @ 150
level 2, with 2x dispel magic scrolls.
Lords/Heroes 652p
22 x Chaos dwarf warriors @253
full command and war banner
20 x Chaos dwarf warriors @210
full command
20 x Blunderbusses @240
10 x Hobgoblin wolf riders @ 140
Light armour, Shields, Musician
10 x Hobgoblin wolf riders @ 140
Light armour, Shields, Musician
20 x Hobgoblins @ 90
Light armour, Shields, Musician
11 x Hobgoblin Archers @ 55
2 x Hobgoblin Bolt trowers @ 60
2 x Hobgoblin Bolt trowers @ 60
8 x Black orc’s @ 112
shields
Shaker @ 110
6 x Bull Centaurs @ 126
Heavy armour
Total 2248p
Da Crusha:
"You may NOT use Special Characters. This includes any Regiment of Renown consisting entirely of characters (and any mounts they may have). EXCEPTION: Dogs of War armies may use DoW special characters."no this means that a dogs of war army can use lumpin croops fighting cocks. cd armies cannot.
Do this meen you can use ROR regiments like Lumpin Croop's fighting cocks ?
qwe50
I like the bc lord also and I am thinking about using him in the cd deathstar unit I thought of last night http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7265. the only problem I have with a bc lord is that he just isnt as flexible as the great Taurus. often I need him to get to the other flank of the battlefield and he cant make it, while the Great Taurus can fly over and charge in 2 turns. the great Taurus also causes terror. The bc lord on the other hand, which is probably more terrifying by looking at the statline and equipment we give him, doesnt even cause fear.
Thorne:
IId still take the Taurus out of tactical flexability more than anything else.