Hammerhand:
:cheers thanks for the nice comments, but I still prefer my helms so I probably wont be doing any more big hats.
Draco: Triangular scale, I got the technique from this foum, follow the link it should help you out:
https://discourse.chaos-dwarfs.com/t/5505
I found this quite difficult and I wasn’t entirely happy with the end result so went for square scale instead.