[Archive] The Relationship with Chaos

Archive [Archive] Chaos Dwarf Discussion
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Tyrelli:

We have in the past dealt and allied with Chaos yet we enslave / capture Deamons … :hashut

Sooo

What is our relationship with the 4 Chaos powers …

Do we have a preference of God ?

Do we simply deal with them to keep them at arms lengh ?

Or is there more to the relationship ?

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Arashi:

Chaos Dwarfs have their own god: Hashut. It’s a separate god from the 4 big ones.

As for the relationship… Well, CD sell a lot of weapons and armors to the chaos warriors for gold, money and slaves, but they can also enslave them if they find a good chance or don’t find a better use for them.

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Tyrelli:

Chaos Dwarfs have their own god: Hashut. It's a separate god from the 4 big ones.

Arashi
^^ Im fully aware of that :)
As for the relationship... Well, CD sell a lot of weapons and armors to the chaos warriors for gold, money and slaves, but they can also enslave them if they find a good chance or don't find a better use for them.

Arashi
But in terms of the actual relationship .. IE for instance one rumor is that Hashut was once the right hand of Khorn .. so do we dispise Khorn more and activly trap / enslave his minions and deamons ? does that drive us to work / trade more with the other groups ..

How do we actually view the other Chaos powers
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Grimstonefire:

I would say that being closer to chaos than is healthy, some CD could easily be turned to follow a chaos god. A sorcerer who just has to know everything about dark magic would probably be an interesting puppet for tzeentch. Likewise, a chaos dwarf warrior that lives for the carnage of battle could find themselves moving towards following khorne (or at least finghting in their armies). Liber chaotica says something like this.

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Tyrelli:

Liber chaotica says something like this.

Grimstonefire
Is there a link to the Liber chaotica chaos dwarf reference ?
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cornixt:

Now that Chaos is more a typical part of nature, like snow (common near the poles, but occasionally overwhelms those nearer the equator), it seems likely that CDs will use it as such. Merely another resource to exploit.

Officially, there isn’t all that much to go on though.

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Thommy H:

Yeah, I always wrote it like magic was just another tool for Chaos Dwarfs to abuse. They think of Daemons like they do fire or steam - something that makes their machines and weapons better, nothing more. Chaos Dwarfs are so arrogant and psychotic that they think they can make anything serve them.

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Grimstonefire:

@Tyrelli

Eventually I will get round to putting the quotes together for the wiki, but it is a really big book and I have’t read much yet.  There’s nothing really significant in there so far.

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Swissdictator:

As long as there are never Slaanesh Chaos Dwarfs. That’s just a disturbing, in a bad way, thought!

Plus I loathe Slaanesh.

I could easily see Chaos Dwarfs answering Khorne’s call due to a love of battle, and fighting alongside those hordes. Outright worship however I might not see. I could see devotion to Tzeentch as has been said above.

Nurgle, I also see being highly unlikely except for perhaps the occasional Dawi Zharr obsessed with the development of biological warfare.

I still see Hashut being dominant among them, except for the random Tzeentch lured Dawi Zharr.

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Baggronor:

They think of Daemons like they do fire or steam - something that makes their machines and weapons better, nothing more. Chaos Dwarfs are so arrogant and psychotic that they think they can make anything serve them.
Yeah, sounds about right. The whole Daemon-binding practice could even lead to friction with other more devout Chaos followers. I think there was an entry in the WoC book about a CD trade expedition being attacked and wiped out by Chaos Warriors, so its clearly a complex situation.
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Bolg:


They think of Daemons like they do fire or steam - something that makes their machines and weapons better, nothing more. Chaos Dwarfs are so arrogant and psychotic that they think they can make anything serve them.


Thommy H
Wow, thats a very nice way of putting it. me like. (as I'm no fan of dedicated followers in real life or in warhammer)
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ashur:

As long as there are never Slaanesh Chaos Dwarfs. That's just a disturbing, in a bad way, thought!

Plus I loathe Slaanesh.

Swissdictator
I've always thought that the very existence of Slaanesh is an insult to the average CD. A god who teach his followers to take joy out of pain can only enrage a nation of slavers.

CD must have some group of specialists on chaotic matters that travel the wastes in order to trade with some tribes, and do their best to defend the northern frontier from potencial invaders. The horde of chaos rulebook implied that CD envoys meet marauder tribes in order to sell their weapons in exchange of slaves. They could easily convince a tribe to destroy another one to stop a potential menace.

I was working some time ago in a CD regiment of renow to illustrate this relationship. A engineer/deamonsmith and his retinue who struck alliances with some and trick others into wearing cursed armours.
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Uzkul Werit:

On the whole other god topic, the 4th Edition Chaos Dwarfs followed Khorne.

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Willmark:

Great point Ashur.

Hashut is all the chaos dwarfs need. The other chaos gods and their followers exist to be exploits as materials for our forges and industries.

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Bassman:

Great point Ashur.

Hashut is all the chaos dwarfs need. The other chaos gods and their followers exist to be exploits as materials for our forges and industries.

Willmark
or to be bound into a collossus as an environmental friendly engine (mmmmh, do they slap a No oil sticker on the colossus?) :D lol

Yes, Hashut is the true father of darkness, let leave the choas gods to lesser races :hashut :hashut
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Kera foehunter:

well we broke up !!!the relationship is over there no god that control the atheistic cd pirates !!

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ashur:

well we broke up !!!the relationship is over  there no god that control the atheistic cd pirates !!

Kera foehunter
You have the full support of my kislevite makhnovtchina !! :cheers