[Archive] Warhammer Adventures

Abecedar:

cdo are fine with diversity we take evil dwarfs with ANY type of  hat

Uther
Quote of the decade!!!
:):):)


Ghrask Dragh
Um. Your Avatar says different

Ghrask Dragh:

:smiley: :smiley:

He does have a hat, it just fell off (that’s why he looks so grumpy ;))

Dînadan:

I do have to wonder how many of the neckbeards complaining are just the old grognards who moan about everything and how many are immature teenagers (nb they don�?Tt actually have to be teenagers, that�?Ts just their level of maturity and sophistication) who think talking about �?~bewbs and violence�?T makes them look �?~kewl and edgy�?T when actually it just makes them look like prats.

Also, got to lol at where the discussion over on Dakka has gone; now they�?Tre debating whether one of the kids on the AoS cover is wearing a hijab or not. rollseyes

Thommy H:

Puffy renaissance sleeves = normal, regular outfit for a person in a fantasy setting totally disconnected from actual history

Hijab = unrealistic SJW pandering

Dînadan:

I kinda want them to reveal one of the kids is gay just to see the neckbeards�?T minds blow even more. :stuck_out_tongue:

cornixt:

We’ve had Star Wars, Harry Potter, and Marvel, none of which is especially kid-friendly if you delve into the details too much but all of which are marketed towards them very heavily. “Diluting the brand” doesn’t really mean anything when it comes to toys and games, GW is not a fashion company, people don’t buy it for the image.

Calling a hooded cloak a hijab just seems like lazy trolling.

Might actually be nice to see a bit more of every day life in the 40k universe rather than the war aspect. I’m just a bit sad that my kids are already too old for the books.

Carcearion:

Hmm… I am having trouble reconciling the backward zealotry, willful ignorance, xenophobia, complete and utter devaluation of human life, and despair which define the Imperium of man with a �?oyounger audience�?� story and I feel like a Warhammer 40k story missing these elements fails to really be a story set in the 41st millennium as we know it.

I know that I have certainly read �?ochildren�?Ts stories�?� which successfully address very real deep and dark elements in a way this is digestible and easy to understand for younger audiences, Terry Pratchett immediately springs to mind as a brilliant author that managed to do so time and time again. My lack of faith lies not in the genre of �?ochildren�?Ts�?� or �?oyoung adult�?� fiction �?" but in GW to actually make a worthwhile investment in creating such a carefully balanced story when more space marines can be sold by simply tacking 40k iconography to any flat adventure tale.

Skink:

Might actually be nice to see a bit more of every day life in the 40k universe rather than the war aspect.

cornixt
This. Exactly this. I mean, there are whole worlds in the Iperium dedicated to leisure, nature, camping, and vacation in general. I mean, it is not like every corner of the galaxy is infested by Tyranids, and Tau are supposed to be open-minded, gracious hosts right? I personally would REALLY like to explore the day to day aspect of a citizen of the Imperium. Plus, I am sooooo glad to see this kind of initiatives, aimed at reeling a younger audience into the hobby. It seems to me that Rountree is fully aware of the rules of the modern market, and has a steady eye on the long term!

Carcearion:

Might actually be nice to see a bit more of every day life in the 40k universe rather than the war aspect.

cornixt
This. Exactly this. I mean, there are whole worlds in the Iperium dedicated to leisure, nature, camping, and vacation in general. I personally would like to see the day to day aspect of a citizen of the Imperium...


Skink
That is definitely something I can get behind if that�?Ts what this story delivers. It�?Ts something that early editions of Dark Heresy really did a good job of and even more so the Shira Calpurnia novels really pulled that off well. The author made a point of saying that the Imperium of man is such a complex and interesting place full of vast cultures and nuances that there is absolutely no need for alien invasions or chaos cultists to tell a compelling story (and he proved it handedly with that series).

Admiral:

Yes, Matthew Farrer should be read if one is interested in 40k. Masterful author who is completely true to the setting and doesn’t deliver wish fulfilment narratives but harsh stories that read like reality. Svedelid in 40k, for Swedish readers, plus he often makes a single sentence more evocative than many authors pull off in an entire chapter. Stories of the living Imperium are usually the best there is to be had in all of 40k. I highly doubt the Adventures will be fully true to the setting (would like to be proven wrong), but anything looking beyond the warzones into the churning guts of Imperial everyday life is more welcome than another dose of bolter magazines.

Dînadan:

Agreed with Skink; 40k is so vast that it�?Ts rediculous to think that every single world feels the touch of war. There are plenty of worlds out there that characters can go off and have adventures on without coming anywhere near a Chaos cult or a Dark Eldar raid. In fact iirc most of the Ciaphas Cain novels feature worlds that aren�?Tt constant war zones and only descend into war zones over the course of the novel for example, so it would be easy to take such a world and have the kids�?T novel take place during the extended period before the war shows up. In fact it wouldn�?Tt be too hard to have it happen at the same time as the war considering how big planets are (for example, kids books set in the real world rarely if ever mention the numerous real life conflicts going on concurrently with the book�?Ts events, so why can�?Tt this be the same with the kids having their adventure on the other side of the planet to the ork invasion).

I think part of the problem is that the �?~adult�?T Black Library novels are so focused on war/Bolter porn that it skews the perception of many people when it comes to the setting and they completely forget about there being more to it than that.

Admiral:

Besides, is anyone else getting curious as to how John Blanche would have tackled the front cover of the 40k book? I doubt the impression would have been too alluring to kids, or perhaps rather their parents. :smiley:

Dînadan:

Besides, is anyone else getting curious as to how John Blanche would have tackled the front cover of the 40k book? I doubt the impression would have been too alluring to kids, or perhaps rather their parents. :D

Admiral
:mask

John Blanche isn�?Tt remotely alluring to me so I dread to think how parents and kids would find a cover by him.

Ghrask Dragh:

A fuss about nothing as per usual

If you don’t like this stuff, ignore it and go read the Hours Heresy and if you do like it then enjoy. Anything else is a waste of energy that people could be putting into their hobby or other aspects of their lives, ironically the are acting more childish than the people these books are made for :smiley:

I don’t usually comment on stuff like this for the reasons above but it’s late and for some reason I’m writing this :wink: feel free to ignore it

On the topic I’m really looking forward seeing how these turn out as I have a 2 boys that may love it, they certainly love the minis. I’ve genuinely caught my 4 year old siting staring at them, I could almost hear the cogs whirring in his head as his imagination ran wild (don’t worry all the sharpe and nasty hobby stuff is always out of the way :hat off)

Another positive step for the new GW as for as I can see here

Dînadan:

. I've genuinely caught my 4 year old siting staring at them, I could almost hear the cogs whirring in his head as his imagination ran wild

Ghrask Dragh
Father Christmas will be delivering some snap fit marines and Orks to your house this year I take it? ;)

Admiral:

On the topic I'm really looking forward seeing how these turn out as I have a 2 boys that may love it, they certainly love the minis. I've genuinely caught my 4 year old siting staring at them, I could almost hear the cogs whirring in his head as his imagination ran wild (don't worry all the sharpe and nasty hobby stuff is always out of the way :hat off)

Another positive step for the new GW as for as I can see here

Ghrask Dragh
This is what the Adventures is all about:  Getting new blood into the settings, finding another target audience to reel in. I find the style of the covers well wrought toward this end. A number of parents and children seem to like the looks of it already. And meanwhile DakkaDakka is boiling over with fears of background dilution and bonkers stuff. Fun reception, in a weird way.

For the record I'm a fan of John Blanche, but can easily see how so bizarre and stark artworks would have a negative effect on reception among the intended audience.

Dînadan:

The artwork style took aback a bit at first, but that�?Ts really only because it�?Ts so at odds with what we�?Tre used to seeing. Pretty much straight away I reflected that if it was in a regular (ie non-kid specific) comic I wouldn�?Tt have batted an eyelid and would have read it without even noting the style. Realising that the style didn�?Tt bother me after that.

Ghrask Dragh:

This is what the Adventures is all about:  Getting new blood into the settings, finding another target audience to reel in. I find the style of the covers well wrought toward this end. A number of parents and children seem to like the looks of it already. And meanwhile DakkaDakka is boiling over with fears of background dilution and bonkers stuff. Fun reception, in a weird way.

For the record I'm a fan of John Blanche, but can easily see how so bizarre and stark artworks would have a negative effect on reception among the intended audience

Admiral
Amen, Dakkadakka was where my comment was directed by the way guys just so we are all good, I know this site is great for attitudes about these sort of things. :cheers

John Blanche has a great style, reminds me of Quinten Blake (of child author Roald Dahl fame, ironically enough) as in its very rough around the edges but actually incredibly well thought out and purposefully gritty, Johns style is a great fit for 40k and it's dark theme but the only one either. The great thing about 40k is that within its own universe it has variety, like Tau, Blanche draws amazing Imperium stuff but I don't think it would suit the Tau at all

Sisters of Battle, that Sisters of battle art is all the needs to be said about Blanche

I'd love to see Matt Dixon take a swing at a Warhammer comic...

Ghrask Dragh:



Double post sorry

Or even Skottie Young, imagine baby Primarchs

Admiral:

Hehe! Would be nice to see. Imagine also My Little Jokaero juggling cute servo skulls, as an April’s fool joke.

Sidenote on Blanche, he actually handles Tau surprisingly well.

One of the more interesting wonderings on Dakka I skimmed through earlier wondered why stories aimed at kids nowadays had to have kids as protagonists, while in the poster’s own childhood years they were all caught up in stuff like Star Wars with adult characters. As a sidenote to that, many older adventure books for boys sported child or teen protagonists as well, albeit with some adult mentor figure to guide the way. Seems to be trend pendulum swings back and forth here as well, as in all creative areas. :slight_smile: