Recently bought the Nagash books. I’m very impressed. The fluff is great and although I probably won’t be playing with the rules, its nice to know whats going on in the Warhammer world.
That being said, I’m nowhere near finished the book. Is there any mention of our evil dudes? Does anyone know where they sit in this conflict more or less? Is it just basically assumed that they will be allying with Chaos? Or would they think the hordes are getting too powerful for comfort?
Personally I would like to see the Dwarfs turn against Chaos. I never really saw them as having roots in Chaos, just simply affected by chaos energies in their homeland.
As far as I’m aware there’s no mention of CDs in Nagash (don’t own the book so don’t take my word as Gospel, just going on what I’ve heard elsewhere), and no one knows yet if they’ll play a role in the Chaos book or if they’ll end up getting Squatted. They might get mentioned and get a number of rules or even a reprint of the LoA list, but it’s more likely they’ll only be mentioned in relation to the Hellcannons (and maybe as the makers of some suits of Chaos Armour); at most it’ll be Hellcannon fluff and a new daemon engine unit for WoC if we’re lucky.
It could be apocalypse by invasions and civil war, as Thommy H sketched out with skill. Plus Sorcerer-Prophet statues awakened by the winds of death permeating the land. Very good interpretation, too, but a sizeable chunk of the Chaos Dwarfs’ forces really should join the Everchosen’s all-Chaos army. These are the End Times, and we are Chaos Dwarfs after all. Believing in Hashut doesn’t make us entirely separate from the wider Chaos.
We return to the mountain and let the whole thing blow over!
Tarrakk Blackhand
That'd take us straight into the arms of our vengeful, uncorrupted cousins. :o
Admiral
We'll flush them out by flooding their tunnels with magma. Then we'll unleash the greenskins and flayed dwarfs will be the new "in" bed coverlets when we return to Zharr-Naggrund, because our capital will not fall, there's not enough ogres in the old world to make a pile high enough to climb our walls or breach our gates.
Wait…we pour the lava into giant fire moats to surround Zharr Nagrund. The hoards of undead Zombies and skeletons march continually towards us and burst into flames in the lava moat. The undead roast to cinders before they can get us. Aren’t most of the Vampire Counts and Tomb King armies flammable? I think Chaos Dwarfs have the upper hand in this one, especially since we cast The Lore Of Fire and Lore of Metal…heck, maybe we even get a few gold skeleton statues in the deal as well!
From what I heard from my locate game store they are releasing at least two more end time books the next is Chaos in one or two months, than skaven in four months from now. Hopefully we get something out of GW for the army maybe a new character choice or a unit I don’t think that is asking much.
It occurred to me the other day there might be a legal reason behind GWs complete lack or attention to us. It’s very possible they legally can not make rules for Chaos Dwarfs nor mention them directly in their stories. Who knows what the legalities are now that Forge World paid $$$ for those rights…
+1 to Cornixt’s answer. Also CDs have been mentioned in BL books; not sure about the most recent books, but in one of the Gotrek and Felix books that’s only one or two years old there was a Daemonsmith and his Infernal Guard bodyguard as minor characters.
We return to the mountain and let the whole thing blow over!
Tarrakk Blackhand
That'd take us straight into the arms of our vengeful, uncorrupted cousins. :o
Admiral
We'll flush them out by flooding their tunnels with magma. Then we'll unleash the greenskins and flayed dwarfs will be the new "in" bed coverlets when we return to Zharr-Naggrund, because our capital will not fall, there's not enough ogres in the old world to make a pile high enough to climb our walls or breach our gates.
MadHatter
we no longer own this land..we traded it for an army list.. the ogre and hobgoblin has it now
I feel we wouldn’t get squatted due to us being a significant part of the fluff, if not an entirely visible one. A distant, but nearby threat. A bit like Cathay, though Cathay is far more distant… I guess Estalia, Tilea and Sartosa as a result did not fill this quota, as they are gone, but I feel we are a bigger part of the lore than they.
If we do end up getting squatted, wonder if the warriors of chaos would get worse? No one to get armor from anymore, limited suits of armor left means chosen or characters are the only ones strong enough to fight and keep the remaining suits. No more hellcanon either.
I’m more opptermistic and believe just as the undead armies have merged so will the Chaos armies.
In this vain you can run the individual army books, however you can choose to hold a grand host, very similar to our own Tamurhan book. In fact there is a lot of similarities between Tamurhan and the new End of Times book.
1 the fluff is very strong 2 they talk about a massive chaos gathering, marching on the world 3 grand army options.
Plus Beastmen were hardly mentioned at all, other armies were such as lizardmen who were two to three pages. Yet Brittonians had so much fluff I was genuinely surprised.
My only concern is if they run a grand host, you might find every man and his dog running a K’Daai Destroyer and two magma cannons, with a Killy Daemonprince and nurgle beasts, oh and top it off with Throgg and core units of trolls.
Now that would be a major OP list. Hmmmmm might starting buying some Trolls…
