CheTralfara:
@ Willmark: Thank you for that link! that is really cool! I had never seen that before. I really like and think this part is very profound and true… “overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.” I really like how Godwin creatively made it a point to reverse that trend, by creating the “Godwin’s Law”.
I can see why the posts would remind you of that totally. But at the same I don’t think “godwin’s law”…
“that the person who first makes an unwarranted reference to Nazi Germany or Hitler in an argument loses that argument automatically.”
…happened in this case, because i wasn’t the first person who made a reference to a nazi program/philosophy/institution/whatever… and I don’t think there was ever any arguement. Especially since me and Swiss (as I now realize) were in agreement about eugenics the whole time.
@ Swiss: I am sincerely sorry. I owe you an apology, because I obviously misunderstood what you originally said. Please know that it wasn’t an attack, only a hopeful plea for clarity that you weren’t saying what I thought you said. And you gave me just that, and I am relieved.
I do hope you can understand how I could misunderstand what you meant to say, because of wording and such. My reaction was out of genuine concern, so that there isn’t any confusion of what eugenics is, since I see it as being very culturally significant at this time in history, this moment in time, right now… Basically because it is very alive today, very little talked about, and existing very actively essentially under the radar of the public, and is largely being touted as being humanitarian in nature and goal (bluff! bluff! :)). I just felt it was something important to understand fully (for the same reason a person says it is important to know about the holocaust… so history doesn’t repeat)…
Please understand that the reason why eugenics is so dastardly, is even deeper and worse than racism. It’s literally a philosophy that is the anti-thesis of a free humanity. The opposite of compassion for your fellow man. It completely dehumanizes us down to the level of clay for them to build with, toy with, and manipulate to the desires of the few.
It is my sincere hope that at the very heart of our spirit and the collective consciousness of all living things… we are evolving together in step, to free all of humanity… to become a peaceful, respectful, and understanding civilization … a civilization that is intellectually empowered to be inspired and aspirational as individuals … one that practices TRUE COMPASSION (not the socialism-style pseudo-“compassion”) and LOVE for our fellow (hu)man.
As ever-evolving beings of intelligence, we are hand-in-hand on a path of enlightenment and empowerment, that is utterly impossible to stopped with ancient, archaic, barbaric, de-evolved ideologies (like eugenics) that embrace the self-hating masochistic acts of slaughtering, tormenting, or enslaving, THEIR fellow man (The sons and daughters of earth = Their family! = OUR family… Us! … I’m talking mankind as one living entity. That shares a unique bond that is utterly mystifying and infinite in potential!)
I really hope that explains where I was coming from and why I thought it should be public post rather than private response. I’ll end it at that.
@ Ubertechie: I can assure you that you’re misunderstanding me and my intentions. I’m gonna really try my best to help clear up our miscommunication that’s breeding any negative feelings… with just this response.
…Basically I see this thread as a group discussion… a discussion is the exchange of ideas and information… and as it progresses, ideas can evolve, and birth brand new ideas and new perspectives… (This is a wonderful thing for us Chaos Dwarf generals!)
This is how we teach and learn from each other how to build really badass conversions… The way we brainstorm new ways to recreate, envision, and bring life to the Chaos Dwarfs that GW forgot… The way we inspire and motivate each other to create. Because Let’s be honest, the Warhammer hobby is an artform!..
Where I am going with this, is that we can easily label a posting as ‘off topic’, because it’s not outrightly directly connected to the first post in the thread, or thread title. But it’s important to remember that, that post, was just the starting place.
What I posted was a response to something that was said recently in the thread… It was a still a progression/continuation/whatever from the previous posts… Was it a big jump? maybe/probably… Was it a long post? Yeah i do that alot… Look at my army blog.
But… was it really out of the blue? Not to a person who read the eugenics sentence I responded to, in the way that I had read it.
Was it derailed? No way! (Hooray! :)). Not only can we still all respond to every and any idea and comment that has been made in the ENTIRE thread so far… but isn’t it very often that new posts will respond to ONLY/specifically to that very first post… We can even completely skip and ignore any post we don’t feel like talking about 
The great part is that because I respect all of you, and am open to your wishes and ideas… and am FULLY behind this being a place of friends, not a place to bicker… I will completely respect your requests for this topic to be redirected from whence it came. Blorko-whytakethem-vania
Why to take dem blorkers?? … Aha! to take-ah da blorc? . To shave-ah-de-bee-errrr -Dahh!
A Hobba Gobba-lin sayzz er…
A. To convert your own a playable regiment of ELITE CHAOS DWARF INFANTRY! Immortals Much? hellyes! hehehe
B. Because the plastic blorks are wunna da best model GW makes!
…AND I offer something new from combining our ideas and topics in this post… Something I don’t think has been pondered/discussed much (but please forgive me if it already has). It izzzz…this . . .
So now that we’ve basically realized that our little evil stunty bastards are not only daemonsmithies extrordinaire, but also little eugenicistic cultoid scum who have successfully created this breed/race/sub-species of ultra-orc, that we know as Black Orcs… I ask you…
Specifically how do
you think we made them ???.. ?
What type of sick unwilling experimentation directly resulted in the birth of these Dark & Focused Orcish Hulks.
Are they Testube Orcs?
- genetically engineering? perhaps there are daemonic sciences? arcane science?
Was it inbreeding?
- a common incestual birth defect being “giganticism”!
Maybe cross-breeding?
- an orc + a what? + a what? + a what?
(how many brutal beast gotta boink an orc ta getta blork?
One thing is for certain, the Chaos Dwarf eugenics program must be equally clandestine as it’s real-world counterpart… for ominous mystery and ambiguous rumor surrounds the Chaos Dwarf origins of the Black Orc race.
— What does “WDP:Chaos Dwarfs” have to say about it??? (slaps forehead for not consulting the wiki foist)
.nick
p.s. Swiss, Please consider doing an edit of that sentence that I confyoozled… so that it doesn’t sound like you’re implying that real-world eugenics isn’t dark and twisted already… I know it’s not what you meant. But maybe… like re-wording it or something, can prevent any future reader confyooooozzzzllllnissness, I guess? Your call. N/m You already did it, and it made me smile very wide. It just scared me at first was all!! Please forgive me!!
p.s.s. miscommunication = a very frequent source of animosity… that creates an illusion of polar opposition between people who in reality are in complete agreeance on the matter at hand.
note: any and all references to freedom = the freedom to exercise your every choice, without the worry or threat of government intervention as long as that choice doesn’t infringe on another persons freedom.
