Grimbold Blackhammer:
Being super sick right now, I’ve been watching a LOT of TV. Last night while watching the Wizard of Oz, I was shocked to realize the Wicked Witch of the West employs GW hobgoblins as her army! Maybe someone else noticed that and brought it up previously but they’re totally there! shocked face
Bloodbeard:
Get well blackhammer.
I’m pretty sure the guy behind this has seen it, read it and he’s currently modelling it.
Abecedar:
I’m onto your evil plan… You are not going to trick me into watching it!
thewizardofoz:
I'm onto your evil plan.... You are not going to trick me into watching it!"Ooooh we loathe, the oooold one!"
Abecedar
Yodrin:
I'm onto your evil plan.... You are not going to trick me into watching it!Yea, not fooling me...... :hashut
Abecedar
Dînadan:
By the way. Whats all the Wizard of Oz hype about. I can't understand that. I'm from Austria. Nobody ever mentions this movie. Almost nobody knows that movie. But here on this Forum and on other english Forums it apears consistently. May you explain that to me. Is it some kind of English folklore you may grow up with in english speaking countries or what?No idea. Could be because (unless I'm mistaken) the film version was some big landmark in American cinematography so has left a cultural imprint on the US psyche. Can't speak for other English-speaking countries, but here in South Wales it's not a folklore, just a film that gets shown on TV at Christmas time (but not at other times during the year as far as I'm aware), so the 'hype' might just be an American thing.
Yes. I found that on Wiki: "Viele US-Amerikaner sind mit dieser Erzählung aufgewachsen und mit ihr so vertraut wie deutschsprachige Mitteleuropäer mit den Märchen von Hänsel und Gretel oder Rotkäppchen." "Many Americans have grown up with this story and are as familiar with it as German-speaking Central Europe with the fairy tale of Hansel and Gretel or Little Red Riding Hood."
Herby
Kera foehunter:
Ha ha
cornixt:
Americans are way more into it than the British, but it is well known in Britain. Apparently it was a movie that was consistently played on US tv in the 70s and 80s, so it was very well watched. First time I’d seen it was last year, but I recognised many of the songs and phrases from pop culture referencing it.
Roark:
"Ooooh we loathe, the oooold one!"I always wondered what they were chanting. 30 something years and I never knew till now. :hat off
thewizardofoz
thewizardofoz:
Huge debate over whether it is love or loathe but as the Winkie Guard are enslaved, the consensus is loathe."Ooooh we loathe, the oooold one!"I always wondered what they were chanting. 30 something years and I never knew till now. :hat off
thewizardofoz
Roark
Roark:
Those Wheelers were freaking nightmarish!!
Fairuza Balk was also kinda scary when she grew up, but in a good way.
Geist:
Being a yank who hates the Movie the Wizard of Oz, I can tell you from with out suffering under the ruby lenses syndrome why it is so popular here in the states. You must understand a few basics first.
1 The movie was made originally in the depression era of the US.
2 The bright colors were a brand new introduction of techno color.
3 It served as a moral booster in a time when many things had gone south very badly
3a The Dust Bowl of the Midwest had just started.
3b The stock market had just gone tits up hard core for the first time.
Because of these iconic hallmarks of the movie (as utter shite as it is), it stuck to the vast majority of the US population. As time has marched along a new form of social problem has come about, the widening of the middle class. This is a problem as it forces more and more people to bare the weight of the crushing US debt. More importantly makes the gap between the 1% (those that control the vast majority of the wealth in the Nation) and the criminally poor even wider. This gives the uber rich more control and more out of touch with the common person. What does that have to do with the movie? Everything, as moral flags and debt rises and people get more compacted into the middle class a need for something to take the mind off problems grows like wild fire. Modern cinema works for a lil bit, but you need something with lasting effect. Bring in the bright and over colored world of Oz!!! A new generation can now drift away from the woes of today and be alleviated (albeit temporarily).
What started as a way to escape reality back in the day has worked its way into our (the Nations) psyche and now become a cultural icon. Proving that even total shite can last forever as it matters not the quality just the effect of appeasement.
cornixt:
The thing that I don’t understand is the main plot. The girl runs away from home to stop her dog from being put down, she ends up in a magic land where she is a hero but does everything she can to return home again, which she already knows was destroyed in a tornado.
MadHatter:
Being a yank who hates the Movie the Wizard of Oz, I can tell you from with out suffering under the ruby lenses syndrome why it is so popular here in the states. You must understand a few basics first.Interesting analyzis (and this coming from a paranoid conspiracy-theorist), however I must add, escapism is worldwide. It's why we all ended up here in the first place ;) Here in scandinavia Oz never was a big thing though, perhaps it's just that every nation needs it's folklore?
1 The movie was made originally in the depression era of the US.
2 The bright colors were a brand new introduction of techno color.
3 It served as a moral booster in a time when many things had gone south very badly
3a The Dust Bowl of the Midwest had just started.
3b The stock market had just gone tits up hard core for the first time.
Because of these iconic hallmarks of the movie (as utter shite as it is), it stuck to the vast majority of the US population. As time has marched along a new form of social problem has come about, the widening of the middle class. This is a problem as it forces more and more people to bare the weight of the crushing US debt. More importantly makes the gap between the 1% (those that control the vast majority of the wealth in the Nation) and the criminally poor even wider. This gives the uber rich more control and more out of touch with the common person. What does that have to do with the movie? Everything, as moral flags and debt rises and people get more compacted into the middle class a need for something to take the mind off problems grows like wild fire. Modern cinema works for a lil bit, but you need something with lasting effect. Bring in the bright and over colored world of Oz!!! A new generation can now drift away from the woes of today and be alleviated (albeit temporarily).
What started as a way to escape reality back in the day has worked its way into our (the Nations) psyche and now become a cultural icon. Proving that even total shite can last forever as it matters not the quality just the effect of appeasement.
Geist
thewizardofoz:
The thing that I don't understand is the main plot. The girl runs away from home to stop her dog from being put down, she ends up in a magic land where she is a hero but does everything she can to return home again, which she already knows was destroyed in a tornado.The film plot is poor Ill admit but the book is much better. Worth a read
cornixt
Roark:
It’s a bit dark for a kid’s movie:
A young girl travels to a foreign land, brutally slays the first person she comes into contact with, and robs the corpse.
Then she teams up with three disabled strangers and, at the behest of a mysterious occultist, wipes out her victim’s remaining family.