Title kinda says it all, really. I have a tendency to write a new army list every time I play, but I figured that it made sense to plan this Legion of Azgorh list and kinda stick roughly to it - having no monies and no longer having the discount means less playing around with the list. I may well sell almost all of my non-CD Warhammer so that I can fund this and start again with all armies properly. Anywho, tangent: here goes.
Sorcerer-Propet - Lore of Hashut
- Level 4
- Pistol
- Mask of the Furnace
- 370pts
Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard - 33
- Hailshot Blunderbusses
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Deathmask
- Naptha Bomb
- Banner of Slavery
- 676pts
Hobgoblin Cutthroats - 34
- Shields
- Bows
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Murder Boss
- 209pts
Magma Cannon - 145pts
Infernal Castellan - Sword of Bloodshed
- Enchanted Shield
- Luckstone
- Ironcurse Icon
- 180pts
Daemonsmith Sorcerer - Lore of Metal
- 95pts
K’daii Destroyer - 325pts
2,000pts, 72 models
Add level 2 and Armour of Bazherak the Cruel to Daemonsmith Sorcerer - 85pts
Okay, after a prompt on the FB group I managed to get a couple of comments at last.
I have no idea how I could’ve missed out the new chalice rules, so shall try to squeeze that in somewhere. I also think I only took the Banner of Slavery for the hilarity of Hobgoblins being Immunte to Psychology (look a dragon! Muh… or we’re all dying! Huh? or The masters is dead/running! Apparently so…).
So, the 2k list may be as simple as:
* Lose the Banner of Slavery
* Daemonsmith gets the Chalice
* Drop 3 Hobgoblin Cutthroats
Second list, I’ve got some thoughts on - primarily drop the second unit of Hobgoblin Cutthroats. Beyond that I’ve forgotten my plans But I shall revisit them upon the morrow!
Right, made some changes! I thinkt he 2k list is fairly solid now. The 2.5k list doesn’t really add anything except more Lore of Hashut spells, some fun with a sneaky Hobgoblin caster and that’s about it. Was undecided on what to waste 60pts on, so thought of a solo warmachine hunter/character softener or a small unit of harriers. Regardless, I don’t think the extra 500 points I’ve added is great, apart from the second magma cannon. Without further ado, new list and I’d like some comments if possible this time, please!
Sorcerer-Prophet - Lore of Hashut
- Level 4
- Pistol
- Mask of the Furnace
- 370pts
Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard - 33
- Hailshot Blunderbusses
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Deathmask
- Pistol
- Naptha Bomb
- 643pts
Hobgoblin Cutthroats - 30
- Shields
- Bows
- Musician
- Standard Bearer
- Murder Boss
- 187pts
Magma Cannon - 145pts
Infernal Castellan - Sword of Bloodshed
- Enchanted Shield
- Luckstone
- Ironcurse Icon
- 180pts
Daemonsmith Sorcerer - Lore of Metal
- Chalice of Blood and Darkness
- Pistol
- 150pts
K’daii Destroyer - 325pts
2,000pts, 68 models
Sorcerer-Prophet drops back to Level 3 (Now 335pts)
Make him a bsb. Drop the sword of bloodshed, an extra 3 S4 attacks aren't going to make any difference. If you want to spend that many points, give him the giant blade. I'd prefer mask of the furnace and either a shield or a great weapon.
Daemonsmith Sorcerer - Lore of Metal
- Chalice of Blood and Darkness
- Pistol
- 150pts
Again not sure about the pistol.
K'daii Destroyer - 325pts
Roar! Moe insane cackles!
2,000pts, 68 models
Sorcerer-Prophet drops back to Level 3 (Now 335pts)
Thanks for taking the time nilbog - broke my laptop and decided to revamp the list a bit anyway. Will find it in a second, but to comment on your comments:
Dropped the pistol on the sorcerer-prophet anyway The Mask is better value, IMO - those 15pts include a 2+ Ward against flaming attacks and causes Fear, also leaving the Talisman of Preservation free to use elsewhere (although I think I haven’t even in the updated list, lol).
The Deathmask’s pistol was because I had 2 points spare and I thought it gave me an extra attack (which has been debated on the forum). Dropped it anyway - naptha bombs are good for making the rest of the unit shoot at half range, at the cost of 1 model’s armour piercing (it’s also thrown, so can ALWAYS stand & shoot - brilliant, I know, right?!?! /sarcasm ).
Infernal Castellan - changed drastically anyway, but reasoning: extra attacks are always fun to have and infintely better than +3S. +3S is overkill considering +2S would be more than adequate for most stuff and adequate for the rest. This is the guy the Talisman of Preservation should go on (since the Mask is elsewhere) and I hate GWs for some reason, lol. But no BSB because he’d be in a Stubborn Ld10 unit anyway and it means if they run he’s down and out, losing me over 200pts for no reason. BSB’s are overrated in CD armies for me.
Daemonsmith’s pistol - for the sake of it, I think. Dropped again
Still unsure about the Destroyer - it never seems to do much in my games, hahaha.
2+ save followed by 4+ ward save (with potion for an unfortunate miscast)
Castellan ( BSB )
- Mask of furnace
- Shield
2+ save followed by 4+ ward save
Khan
- Stays the same as you have listed, if you have the points you can always add the dragon helm
Daemonsmith
- I prefer my level 1 smith to have a dispel scroll, but if you like the chalice keep it.
*Personally I think you have too many points invested in characters for a 2000pt game. Might be worth dropping the smith and/or khan and bulking up the hobgoblin unit.
As far as the rest of the list goes here is what I suggest.
Bump the guard unit down to 28 (30 with the bsb and prophet). Then deploy them 10X3 to maximize the blunderbusses. I also like taking the lichebone pennant to give the unit magic resistance, but more importantly give the bsb and prophet a 3+ ward vs annoying death magic snipes.
With the extra points I’d be trying to get the hobgoblins larger. 24 won’t cut it. I sometimes will take a unit of 20 with bows if I need to hit the minimum amount of core, but they tend to be more of a throw away type unit. With the blunderbusses I don’t really think you need more shooting. You may want to field the hobgoblins as a combat type unit 5 wide and as many deep as possible.
With only 2 units, a war machine and the destroyer you will be out numbered in most games.
Tested out a slightly modified version of the list against Dwarfs today. Dropped the Deathshrieker and played a 2,400 point game. The Chalice was immensely useful and my K’daii Destroyer was finally useful (almost soloing a unit of 38 Hammerers with Runelord before burning out - leaving 5 Hammerers). The Magma Cannon unfortunately got taken out relatively quickly (one in the opening turn), but did huge amounts of damage, especially with the Daemonsmith’s re-roll ability. The Infernal Guard performed very well, but only because of their sheer weight of models - when there were only 7 left, they finally got to shoot once and killed nothing: I managed to draw against a tournament list when I was wasting 208pts (from having 10pts spare), so I may drop the Hailshots, although they have previously worked brilliantly. The Hobgoblins worked well for soaking up warmachine damage and didn’t do as much damage as usual before an unfortunate failed Panic test (reinforcing that I may as well find 25pts to get a BSB). The characters did surprisingly well, despite receiving the two Darkforged Weapons I hate (2+ To Wound or hurt yourself and D3 wounds). However, I agree that (whilst immensely fun to roll 6 dice for attacks) the Sword of Bloodshed isn’t worth it on the Castellan. Ironcurse Icon was a great idea, especially in a unit where each model is worth 18 points: even one roll of 6 gets almost 4 times its points back.
Regarding the above comments -
healing potion is great for the reason you stated, but the 2.5k list hasn’t got the Lord points to spare for it.
Castellan is the set-up I’ll likely use, but add in the Ironcurse Icon.
Khan was just to use up the spare 60pts and to act as a warmachine hunter, pain in the rear and maybe even a character weakener - he could be dropped fromt he list still if I find a need for the other points.
Daemonsmith - NEVER liked Dispel Scrolls. Partly because I hate one use only items, but mostly because if I can’t cope with the amount of magic coming at me, one auto-dispel in the 6 turns of it coming at me isn’t going to help. The Chalice however can screw up your opponent’s dispel attempts and casting.
Infernal Guard - already use them that way, but the extra 5 models allows a little damage to be taken before any loss of damage output and is extremely useful for such.
Hobgoblins - Was wanting it to be a larger unit, but the unit is more of a distraction that anything and the bows give me a bit of range to bring the enemy into range of the BBs. Also, why have the HGs act as my combat unit when they Infernal Guard fill that roll s perfectly?
I don’t think I;ve ever played a game where I’ve not been outnumbered - my primary army for a long time was Chaos.
But I shall revisit them upon the morrow!
The Mask is better value, IMO - those 15pts include a 2+ Ward against flaming attacks and causes Fear, also leaving the Talisman of Preservation free to use elsewhere (although I think I haven’t even in the updated list, lol).
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