Honeym123:
So guys - who out there have a dangerous etc 2014 list lying around, that I can make my upcomming purchases around? List your list, and lets see whos argumentation wins!
A slave for the most dangerous - based on my limited judging - so remember to tell me why your list is dangerous as the mountain in wich it was forged!
Kamphre:
I have last year ETC lists, but they’re not mine, I can’t explain you the synergy with the other team members.
Richard de Swaaf (Pays Bas), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet on Bale Taurus: General, Level 4, Death, Talisman of Preservation, Blood of Hashut, Enchanted Shield, 595
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 2, Fire, Dispel Scroll, Charmed Shield, 160
Dark Castellan: Shield, Battle Standard, The Mask of the Furnace, Tormentor sword, 202
Hobgoblin Khan: Giant Wolf, Light Armour, Shield, Dragonbane Gem, Shrieking Blade, 71
Hobgoblin Khan: Giant Wolf, Light Armour, Shield, Dragonhelm, Warrior Bane, 71
Hobgoblin Khan: Giant Wolf, Spear, 56
27 Chaos Dwarf Inferal Guard: Great Weapons, FCG, 437
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shield, Musician, 188
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats, Shield, Musician, 188
1 Iron Daemon War Engine: Hellbound, 310
1 Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 100
1 Hellcannon: 210
Total: 2400
Tim Joss (Nouvelle-Zélande), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer Prophet on Bale Taurus: General, Level 4, Death, Charmed Shield, Earthing Rod, Talisman of Preservation, 600
Bull Centaur Taur�?Truk: GW, Blackshard Armour, Dawnstone, Dragonhelm, The other Trickster Shard, 235
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 2, Fire, Dispel Scroll, Enchanted Shield, 160
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Spear, Light Armour, 58
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Light Armour, Sword of Striking, 69
20 Hobgoblin Cuttthroats: Musician, Bows, 104
20 Hobgoblin Cuttthroats: Musician, Bows, Shields, 114
30 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: Musician, Standard Bearer, Gleaming Pendant, 385
3 Bull Centaur Renders: Musician, Shields, 140
1 Hellcannon: 210
1 K�?TDaai Destroyer: 325
Total: 2400
David Wong (Singapour), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet: General, Level 4, Death, Dispel Scroll, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Ironcurse Icon, 380
Infernal Castellan: BSB, Shield, Mask of the Furnance, 197
Daemonsmith Sorceror: Level 1, Fire, Charmed Shield, 100
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Light Armour, Shield, Dragonbane Gem, Warrior Bane, 66
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk: Blackshard Armour, Great Weapon, Dragonhelm, Dawnstone, 220
26 Infernal Guard: FCG, Great Weapons, Deathmask: Pistol, Banner of Swiftness, 439
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bows, 104
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bows, 104
3 Bull Centaur Renders: Musician, Great Weapons, 155
1 Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 100
1 Hellcannon: 210
1 K’daai Destroyer: 325
Total: 2400
Samuel Moore (Australie), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorceror Prophet: General, Level 4, Death, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Earthing Rod, 375
Dark Castellain: BSB, Great Weapon, Mask of the Furnace, Luckstone, 205
Daemonsmith Sorceror: Level 1, Metal, Dispel Scroll, 120
Daemonsmith Sorceror: Level 1, Fire, Feedback Scroll, 145
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: Light Armour, Spear, 58
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: Light Armour, Shield, Dragonhelm, Warrior Bane, 71
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bow, Shield, 114
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bow, Shield, 114
26 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: FCG, Great Weapon, Lichebone Pendant, 437
1 Chaos Dwarf Magma Cannon: 145
1 Chaos Dwarf Magma Cannon: 145
1 Chaos Dwarf Deathshrieker Rocket: 100
3 Bull Centaur Renders: Champion, Great Weapon, 160
1 Chaos Dwarf Hellcannon: 210
Total: 2399
ITIE Guilhem (France), Chaos dwarves
Sorcerer-Prophet: General, Level 4, Death, Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield, Earthing Rod, 375
Infernal Castellan: BSB, Shield, The Mask of the Furnace, 197
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 1, Fire, 95
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 2, Death, Dispel scroll, Enchanted Shield 160
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf : Light Armour, 54
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf : Light Armour, 54
26 Chaos Dwarfs Infernal Guard : Full Command, Great Weapons, Lichebone Pendant, 437
40 Hobgoblins Cutthroat: Musician, Murder Boss, Shields, 194
20 Hobgoblins Cutthroat: Musician, Shields, Bows, 114
1 Magma Cannon : 145
1 Magma Cannon : 145
1 Deathshrieker Rocket : 100
5 Hobgoblins Riders : 60
5 Hobgoblins Riders : 60
1 Hellcanon : 210
Total: 2400
Mark Attard (Malte), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorceror Prophet on Great Taurus: General, Level 4, Hashut, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Dispel Scroll, Ruby Ring of Ruin, 545
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk: Great Weapon, Dragonhelm, Dawnstone, 205
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Light Armour, Warrior Bane, Dragonbane Gem, 64
23 Infernal Guards: FCG, Great Weapons, Banner of Swiftness, 392
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bows, 104
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bows, 104
3 Bull Centaur Renders: Musician, Shields, 140
1 Iron Daemon: Hellbound, 310
1 K’Daai Destroyer: 325
1 Hellcannon: 210
Total: 2399
Tom Mawdsley (Angleterre), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer Prophet: General, Level 4, Death, Earthing Rod, Charmed Shield, Obsidian Amulet, Ruby Ring of Ruin 385
Infernal Castellan: BSB, 130
Daemonsmith: Level 2, Fire, Dispel Scroll, 155
Bull Centaur Tau�?Truk: Blackshard Armour, Great Weapon, Dawnstone, Other Tricksters Shard, Dragonhelm, 235
Hobgoblin Khan: Wolf, Light Armour, 54
26 Infernal Guard: Standard, Musician, Champion, Great Weapons, Standard of Swiftness, 437
34 Hobgoblins: Musician, Champion, Extra Hand Weapons, 167
3 Bull Centaurs: Musician, Shields, 140
1 Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 100
1 Hellcannon: 210
1 K�?TDaai Destroyer: 325
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders: 60
Total: 2398
Julius Castrén (Finlande), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet on Great Taurus: General, Level 4, Death, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, 495
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 1, Fire, Enchanted Shield, Dispel Scroll, 125
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: 52
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Light Armor, 54
20 Hobgoblins: Bows, Musician, 104
20 Hobgoblins: Bows, Musician, 104
20 Hobgoblins: Bows, Musician, 104
20 Hobgoblins: Bows, Musician, 104
40 Hobgoblins: Shields, Musician, Standard Bearer, 192
7 K’daai Fireborns: Champion, 395
1 Magma Cannon: 145
1 Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 100
1 Hellcannon: 210
1 Dreadquake Mortar: Slave Ogre, 215
Total: 2399
Richard Coupland (Bulgarie), Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet on Great Taurus: General, Level 4, Death, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Potion of
Speed, 500
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 1, Death, Dispell Scroll, 120
Deamonsmith Sorcerer: Level 2, Fire, 130
Dark Castellean: BSB, Shield, Mask of the Furnace, 197
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: 52
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: 52
29 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: FCG, Razor Standard, 425
36 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: FCG, Bows, Shields, 220
1 Deathshrieker Death Rocket: 100
1 Chaos Dwarf Hellcannon: 210
1 K’Daai Destroyer: 325
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders: 60
Total: 2391
ThorAxe:
My list is as follows:
Sorc Prophet of Hashut, arabyan carpet, talisman of preservation, encahnted shield, blood of hashut
(multi-purpose general. Is able to babysit war machines and move to specific parts of the battlefield given the ability to fly. Cannot have the mount shot out from beneath him, high T, armor, and ward lessen effects of shooting against him. Blood of hashut helpful against skullcrushers/other high armor save things that reach combat)
Castellan bsb, shield, mask of the furnace, ironcurse icon
(defensive bsb, would rather have survive and grind down foe than need to attack. Other races have better and cheaper combat heros, ours is among the better defensive ones)
Khan, la, spear, shield, terrifying mask of eee
(I take this mostly for fun. Awesome to have him terrify a unit of chaos warriors, or scare off low leadership chaff. You could instead remove some of his equipment to make him fast cav and give the Prophet a scroll. Probably a better idea…)
28 Infernal guard, sword n board, FC, warbanner
(Bsb goes here. Has a static combat resolution of 6 when enough ranks are there, grinds down the foe without dying in return Not at 29 due to etc system)
28 Hobgoblins, FC, shields, bows
(Secondary, supportive block. extra fortitude in blood or glory scenario, massed bow fire sees off enemy chaff, pokes off charmed shield on daemon prince)
20 Hobgoblins, shields, musicians
(expendable unit. Sits in watchtower in watch tower scenario, throwing knives constantly. Can babysit warmachines depending on battle, throwing knives at sneaky foes trying to encircle you, kills off chaff with static combat res. Good at holding monsters in place due to steadfast)
3 Bull Centaur, shields, musician
(try and play the caff game with these. can laugh off elves without great weapons, also fast enough to try and get around foe and attack from flanks or rear. Could also hold up weaker monsters. Not so good against huge units with massive static combat res)
1 Death shrieker Rocket
(either try and snipe monsters/characters/chariots or large blast units outside generals/BSB range to force panic. good war machine)
1 Magma canon
(utter death to T3 infantry on small bases, and monstrous infantry. Cast ash storm (flamable) on monstrous infantry first for fun times)
1 Iron Daemon, hellbound
(good for holding up units you never want to fight (hordes of savage orcs, hammerer hordes, gut stars, executioner hordes) out of the battle, or at least hold them in place to flank charge with infernal guard to break with massive combat res. Its guns can also massacre many monsters and other single model units)
1 K’daii destroyer
(Amazing against certain armies. Will rampage through armies as long as its weaknesses (massed poison, unstompable character with dragonbane gem/ dragonhelm, redirectors) are kept away. Very good as a distraction at the very least)
Comps out 7.7, just out of the highest tier if you worry about that sort of thing.
ThorAxe:
My list is as follows:
Sorc Prophet of Hashut, arabyan carpet, talisman of preservation, encahnted shield, blood of hashut
(multi-purpose general. Is able to babysit war machines and move to specific parts of the battlefield given the ability to fly. Cannot have the mount shot out from beneath him, high T, armor, and ward lessen effects of shooting against him. Blood of hashut helpful against skullcrushers/other high armor save things that reach combat)
Castellan bsb, shield, mask of the furnace, ironcurse icon
(defensive bsb, would rather have survive and grind down foe than need to attack. Other races have better and cheaper combat heros, ours is among the better defensive ones)
Khan, la, spear, shield, terrifying mask of eee
(I take this mostly for fun. Awesome to have him terrify a unit of chaos warriors, or scare off low leadership chaff. You could instead remove some of his equipment to make him fast cav and give the Prophet a scroll. Probably a better idea…)
28 Infernal guard, sword n board, FC, warbanner
(Bsb goes here. Has a static combat resolution of 6 when enough ranks are there, grinds down the foe without dying in return Not at 29 due to etc system)
28 Hobgoblins, FC, shields, bows
(Secondary, supportive block. extra fortitude in blood or glory scenario, massed bow fire sees off enemy chaff, pokes off charmed shield on daemon prince)
20 Hobgoblins, shields, musicians
(expendable unit. Sits in watchtower in watch tower scenario, throwing knives constantly. Can babysit warmachines depending on battle, throwing knives at sneaky foes trying to encircle you, kills off chaff with static combat res. Good at holding monsters in place due to steadfast)
3 Bull Centaur, shields, musician
(try and play the caff game with these. can laugh off elves without great weapons, also fast enough to try and get around foe and attack from flanks or rear. Could also hold up weaker monsters. Not so good against huge units with massive static combat res)
1 Death shrieker Rocket
(either try and snipe monsters/characters/chariots or large blast units outside generals/BSB range to force panic. good war machine)
1 Magma canon
(utter death to T3 infantry on small bases, and monstrous infantry. Cast ash storm (flamable) on monstrous infantry first for fun times)
1 Iron Daemon, hellbound
(good for holding up units you never want to fight (hordes of savage orcs, hammerer hordes, gut stars, executioner hordes) out of the battle, or at least hold them in place to flank charge with infernal guard to break with massive combat res. Its guns can also massacre many monsters and other single model units)
1 K’daii destroyer
(Amazing against certain armies. Will rampage through armies as long as its weaknesses (massed poison, unstompable character with dragonbane gem/ dragonhelm, redirectors) are kept away. Very good as a distraction at the very least)
Comps out 7.7, just out of the highest tier if you worry about that sort of thing.
Kamphre:
This year ETC lists. Note the last, from Shane Baxter, Ireland. 
Australie
Samuel “Connoisseur of Stags” Moore, Chaos Dwarfs
Sorceror Prophet: General, Lvl 4, Death, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Preservation, Earthing Rod, 375
Dark Castellain: BSB, Shield, Mask of the Furnace, Luckstone, 202
Daemonsmith Sorceror: Lvl 1, Metal, Dispel Scroll, 120
Daemonsmith Sorceror: Lvl 1, Fire, Feedback Scroll, 145
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: Light Armour, Spear, 58
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: Light Armour, Shield, Dragonhelm, Warrior Bane, 71
2x 20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bow, Shields, 2x 114
26 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: FCG, Great Weapon, Lichebone Pennant, 437
2x 1 Chaos Dwarf Magma Cannon: 2x 145
1 Chaos Dwarf Deathshrieker Rocket: 100
3 Bull Centaur Renders: Champion, Great Weapons, 160
1 Chaos Dwarf Hellcannon: 210
Total: 2396
Bulgarie
Richard Coupland, Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet on Bale Taurus: General, Level 4 Death, Charmed Shield, Sceptre of Stability, Talisman of
Preservation, Potion of Speed, 595
Daemonsmith Sorcerer : Level 2 Fire, Enchanted Shield, Dispell Scroll, 160
Dark Castellean: BSB, Shield, Mast of the Furnace, Ironcurse Icon, 202
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: Light Armour, 54
Hobgoblin Khan on Wolf: 52
29 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: Full Command, Razor Standard, 425
30 Hobgoblins Cutthroats: Bows, Shields, Standard Bearer, Musician, 177
2x Deathshrieker Death Rocket, 2x 100
Hellcannon, 210
K’daai Destroyer, 325
Total: 2400
Angleterre
Will Goodwin - Chaos Dwarfs.
Sorceror-Prophet: General; Level 4; Death; Charmed Shield; Earthing Rod 330
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk: Great Weapon; Blackshard Armour; Dragonhelm; Dawn Stone; The Other Tricksters Shard 235
Deamonsmith Sorceror: Lore of Fire; Dispel Scroll 120
Infernal Castellan: BSB; Enchanted Shield 135
Hobgoblin Khan: Spear; Giant Wolf; Light Armour; Dragonbane Gem 63
27 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: FCG; Great Weapon; Banner of the Eternal Flame 447
31 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Murder Boss; 2ndWeapon; Musician 153
3 Bull Centaur Renders 120
2 x Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher 2 x 100
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Raiders 60
Hellcannon 210
K’daai Destroyer 325
2398.5 Points
Norvège
�~ystein Berg, Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet: general, lvl 4, Death, blood of hashut, Earthing Rod, Charmed Shield, Obsidian Lodestone, 395
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: lvl 1, Death, Dispel Scroll, 120
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: lvl 1, Fire, Enchanted Shield, 100
Dark Castellan: bsb, Talisman of Endurance, 160
3x Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf, 3x 52
24 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: FCG, Gleaming Pennant, 325
10 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: Musician, 130
34 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Standard, Musician, 148
Magma Cannon: 145
2x Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 2x 100
Iron Daemon War Engine: hellbound, 310
Hellcannon: 210
Total: 2399
Suède
Robert Johansson, Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-prophet: general, blackshard armour, darkforged weapon, level 4, lore of hashut, earthing rod, obsidian talisman, 355
Daemonsmith sorcerer: blackshard armour, enscorcelled hand weapon, level2, lore of death, dispel scroll, charmed shield, 160
Infernal castellan: blackshard armour, Battle Standard bearer, enchanted shield, 135
2x 1 Hobgoblin khan on giant wolf: throwing knives, 2x 52
26 Infernal guard: great weapons, FCG, standard of swiftness, 437
32 Hobgoblin cutthroats: bows, musician, 164
Iron daemon war engine: hellbound, 310
2x Deathshrieker rocket launcher: 2x 100
Hellcannon: 210
K’daai destroyer: 325
Total: 2400
Italie
Alberto Paterlini - Chaos Dwarfs
Sorceror-Prophet on Great Taurus: General, Lvl 4, Death, Blood of Hashut, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation, The Other Tricksters Shard, Sceptre of Stability, 545
Deamonsmith Sorceror: Lvl 1, Fire, Dispel Scroll, Enchanted Shield, Dragonbane Gem, 130
10 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: Standard, Musician, Banner of Slavery, 175
4x 20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, 4x 84
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Normal Bow, 104
1 Iron Deamon War Engine: 285
2x 1 Magma Cannon: 2x 145
1 Hellcannon: 210
1 K’daai Destroyer: 325
Total: 2400
Pays-Bas
Richard de Swaaf, Chaos dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet: General, Lvl 4, Death, Blackshard Armour, Darkforged Weapon, Talisman of Preservation, Enchanted Shield, Arabyan Carpet, 400
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: lvl 1, Fire, Blackshard Armour, Ensorcelled Weapon, Dispel Scroll, Charmed Shield, 125
Infernal Castellan: BSB, Shield, Blackshard Armour, The Mask of the Furnace, Luckstone, Warrior Bane, 207
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Throwing knives, Light Armour, Shield, Dragonhelm, Shrieking Blade, 76
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Throwing knives, Light Armour, Shield, Dragonbane Gem, Tormentor Sword, 66
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Throwing knives, Spear, 56
26 Chaos Dwarf Inferal Guard: Blackshard Armour, shields, Great Weapons, FCG, Lichebone standard, 437
28 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Bow, Light Armour, Throwing Knives, Shield, Musician, champion, 168
Iron Daemon War Engine: Hellbound, 310
2 x Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 2x 100
Magma Cannon: 145Pts
Hellcannon: 210 Pts
Total: 2400
Singapour
Jared Law “Burning Bright”, Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet: General, Level 4, Death, Charmed Shield, Earthing Rod, Talisman of Preservation, 375
Infernal Castellan: Battle Standard, Enchanted Shield, Ironcurse Icon, Luckstone, 145
Daemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 1, Fire, Dispel Scroll, 120
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk: Great Weapon, Blackshard Armour, Dragonhelm, Dawn Stone, 220
Hobgoblin Khan on Giant Wolf: Light Armour, Dragonbane Gem, Warrior Bane, 64
23 Infernal Guard: FCG, Great Weapon, Banner of Swiftness, 392
2 x 20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Musician, Bows, 104
3 Bull Centaur Renders: Musician, Shields, 140
2 x Deathshrieker Rocket Launcher: 100
Hellcannon: 210
K’daai Destroyer: 325
Total: 2,399
Ecosse
Neil Peckett, Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet; General, Level 4, Death Magic, Dispel Scroll, Obsidian Amulet 355
Infernal Castellan; BSB, Sword of Anti-heroes; Enchanted Shield, 165
Hobgoblin Khan on Great Wolf; Dragonbane Gem, 57
Bull Centaur Taur’ruk; Great Weapon, Blackshard Armour, Dawnstone, Dragonhelm, 220
29 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard; FCG, Razor Standard, 425
10 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard; Musician, fireglaives, 180
3 Bull Centaur Renders; great weapons, 150
1 Iron Daemon War Engine; Hellbound, 310
1 K’daai Destroyer; 325
1 Hellcannon; 210
Total : 2397
Irlande
Shane Baxter �?" Chaos Dwarfs
Sorcerer-Prophet: (General), Hashut, Lvl 4, Lammasu, Lvl 1 Death, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation - 545
2 x 10 Chaos Dwarf Infernal Guard: Fireglaives �?" 2 x 170
20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats: Bows - 100
2 x 20 Hobgoblin Cutthroats - 2 x 80
3 x Iron Daemon War Engine: Hellbound �?" 3 x 310
K’daai Destroyer - 325
Total - 2400
Time of Madness:
3 Iron Daemons and a K’daai would be tough to plow through.
Time of Madness
Jorma:
3 Iron Daemons and a K'daai would be tough to plow through.Just put a single model that the ID:s cant stomp against them and they cant do anything :p
Time of Madness
Time of Madness
Kamphre:
Except that your single unstompable model is charged on next turn by the 2 others, dealing 2D6 +4 impact.3 Iron Daemons and a K'daai would be tough to plow through.Just put a single model that the ID:s cant stomp against them and they cant do anything :p
Time of Madness
Time of Madness
So it's pretty much a one trick pony.
Jorma
m0rg0th:
If you let your unit get charged from an Iron Daemon you should not be playing at the ETC…
Heavygear:
Unless you have actually tried it instead of theoryhammering it, I would not be too quick to dismiss it. I played with two in a recent tournament and all of my opponents commented on how tough they were to deal with.3 Iron Daemons and a K'daai would be tough to plow through.Just put a single model that the ID:s cant stomp against them and they cant do anything :p
Time of Madness
Time of Madness
So it's pretty much a one trick pony.
Jorma
Jorma:
Unless you have actually tried it instead of theoryhammering it, I would not be too quick to dismiss it. I played with two in a recent tournament and all of my opponents commented on how tough they were to deal with.I have not tried it myself, but heard from a ETC-veteran that the list is extremely easy to deal with, just get them into combats that they don't want to go and they will be completely tied down. For example competive WoC ETC list has only Warhounds that the iron daemons are able to stomp, rest is either monsters, chariots or mounted.
Heavygear
Heavygear:
I wasn't facing footslogga armies but I'm soooo glad you "know a guy" who played a list like this once so you can offer these little nuggets of wisdom. Clearly it makes you an expert on the subject.Unless you have actually tried it instead of theoryhammering it, I would not be too quick to dismiss it. I played with two in a recent tournament and all of my opponents commented on how tough they were to deal with.I have not tried it myself, but heard from a ETC-veteran that the list is extremely easy to deal with, just get them into combats that they don't want to go and they will be completely tied down. For example competive WoC ETC list has only Warhounds that the iron daemons are able to stomp, rest is either monsters, chariots or mounted.
Heavygear
(I actually have no idea how ETC-pairings go but you might not end up with your ideal footslogga army where everything is stompable with low str)
Jorma
Heavygear:
Unless you have actually tried it instead of theoryhammering it, I would not be too quick to dismiss it. I played with two in a recent tournament and all of my opponents commented on how tough they were to deal with.I have not tried it myself, but heard from a ETC-veteran that the list is extremely easy to deal with, just get them into combats that they don't want to go and they will be completely tied down. For example competive WoC ETC list has only Warhounds that the iron daemons are able to stomp, rest is either monsters, chariots or mounted.
Heavygear
(I actually have no idea how ETC-pairings go but you might not end up with your ideal footslogga army where everything is stompable with low str)
Jorma
Jorma:
I wasn't facing footslogga armies but I'm soooo glad you "know a guy" who played a list like this once so you can offer these little nuggets of wisdom. Clearly it makes you an expert on the subject.No need to get offensive, what I mainly meant that while the list looks awesome and I even giggeled at the thought of wielding such a "monster" heavy CD list, it would be rather easy to shut down in competive enviroment.
Heavygear