The Big Poll: Helsmiths of Hashut

Yes I was thinking this too. In fact the entire old resin army still exists in their back catalogue and is not longer an AOS IP so could (could) be re released one day.

Honestly the great studio schism is THE stupidest thing about modern GW (a company that has become much more switched on and aware of their fan base over the past ten-fifteen years than it once was)

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Makes no sense.

It looks like it causes a divide within the company that should all be working towards the same goal. But it instead seems to have made it so buying minis from one studio to use in another studio’s game would be clouding how much money each one is making… even though it’s all going into the same pot.

You know it’s not coming from all the creative guys either, actually doing and loving the work. It’s from some dipshit who needs to know where each penny profit is being generated from so they can go by that stat instead of knowing more about who’s putting the pennies in and why.

I mentioned in my BB blog it also seems to effect the quality of plastics coming out which bugs me.

Anyway. Can’t change it so it ain’t going to bother me.

Not sure if it’s already been pointed out but we could be seeing another train down the line, looks to have a point of connection at the back of the artillery, also a very cool mask

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More hits than misses to me.

The AoS style is not great, the miniatures felt to “corner focused” or “not rounded in any corner” (I can’t find a better way to say it) but that’s something we saw before, even in the last days of Warhammer. At least they had “Big” hats.

I like most of the miniatures, the Bull Centaurs are great (maybe I should buy them because I dont have any at my army)

The Great Taurus as a robot looks great. Hobgoblins are nice, the regular Chaos Dwarfs are OK and the big robot..well… I dont know, not great, not awful.

Im not a huge fan of the style of war machines, maybe the Rocket Launcher looks nice, but the other cannon… didnt like it at all.

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The crazy thing is, the war machines, dominator and Taurus lift and drop exactly as is into Warhammer old world.

Iron Daemon, dreadquake, skull cracker add in a plastic crew sprue to the FW set and re-release (crew in the same style as the new stuff).

They just throw some square bases up as a “people also buy” option.

But sadly the Warhammer old world team have a very specific remit, and that’s not repackaging AoS models unless essential.

So we’re not going to see anymore updates to the legacy PDFs, and Chaos Dwarfs are stuck in the shit game rather than the good war game.

The sculpts also aren’t very… grounded. They look a bit off brand. The sort of sculpt that defaults very quickly to just putting shapes in places rather than bits of actual armour that might have a purpose. Designed as a toy first, rather than a model of something that might look real.

They remind me far too much of those terrible Mantic Chorfs.

And it’s not like GW have forgotten how to sculpt good chaos dwarfs. The bloodbowl ones were excellent.

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Honestly the first person who mentioned Mantic did so within hours of release and it’s really stuck with me. I’m still thinking it over.

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I like the war machines, sans the crews, and the bull centaurs. These centaurs are a better representation than the current version and better than the original 1992 models (I have 7 I use in battles). I will likely use a new one as a champion or the character. Aside from that I could see a fireglaive upgrade as I dislike the forge world models. Aside from that I’ll stick with my original metal minis.

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I would buy the crews off you in a heartbeat, genuinely DM me if you’re in the UK or Korea and dislike them that much, I would take em.

No matter what army it could have been for, the cannon cow looks absolutely fun to paint.

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I have only waited since 8th ed for new Chorfs(relatively short of a chorf fan), but I am so happy with these!! Sam Wise’s Warcraft 3 aesthetic was one I used to love, so these “burning crusade” angular-looking art deco Chorfs really hit home for me.
The new lore also genuinely excites me.

Also, I don’t think I’ve been to Chaos Dwarfs online in nearly 10 years! This place is nostalgic to me, despite the “new” look.
So many familiar names in the poll! I came crawling back out of sheer excitement.

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I think overall it’s “fine”. There’s a lot of stuff that I look at and go “that’s ok”. Not many that get a strong love/hate reaction out of me.

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The most interesting thing for me is that as we approach 100 votes we still haven’t changed the basic proportion; two thirds like it, one third feels more negative. Remarkably consistent.

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Honestly. I do think I fit into a 5th option of “like/hate in equal amounts”.

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I totally get where you’re coming from. I have forcibly not used that option intentionally to get a clearer view of sentiment. It’s more interesting to see what people choose if hedging isn’t allowed, and “meh” is a form of negativity in my book. That said I still haven’t been able to vote myself, I can’t decide.

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Bull Centaurs are about the only thing I like with this release.

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its funny, after a few days mulling on the reveal, I find that the models I actually like aren’t even the Dwarfs. It’s the centaurs and hobbos

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They are universally the biggest hits with the community, judging by a few days of Discord. Even (especially?) among folks who don’t like the rest of it.

@chitzkoi the Mantic comparisons came up during the livestream even!

@Fuggit_Khan and the noses came up recently in discord chat as well. It seems a big hat without a big honker just doesn’t hit the same…

At the end of the day I don’t think this was a very additive release. By which I mean we didn’t really get much we haven’t seen before. This isn’t wholly bad of course, it was a clear “hats” release and pretty much everything slots easily into TOW, but the only wholly new concept might be the… ah… flamehurlers. And I suppose the Annointed Sentinels, which are actually frustratingly close to my own long-overdue conversion plan.

One thing I’ve been thinking about recently - the blood bowl release, done by SDS, was met with far greater acclaim. Similarly the 8th ed models were SDS as well. As far as I know, SDS wasn’t a thing for the earlier releases. I don’t know if it’s larger Main Studio meddling or if the SDS crew just has a better finger on the pulse of the community, but the difference in approach is quite stark. While this is, honestly, a better release than I expected, it does make me wonder what SDS might do in another decade.

But until then, let’s sharpen our knives and wet our brushes - there are many years to fill with ingenuity!

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I agree, if they want to do female chaos dwarfs, they should have given them long hair or something in a similarly ornamented style to the beards - their absence breaks the silhouette a bit.

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I’m not quite sure, maybe some other old fogies that were around back then too, but I think this release actually hits better the the LoA.

I’m sure there was quite a bit of outrage about the hatless infantry, even though we had the lore to support they were shamed/disgraced dwarfs the fact all our infantry had no big hats was a big blow to a lot of people.

I don’t think the Marauders helmed mini were as revered as they are now so lack of big hats was a big miss for a lot of people.

It will be interesting to see going forward if the initial reaction above stays the same

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