A Fourth Creed - Voting Closed!

Let us strike our decision here! Read the debates below and cast your votes!

  • NuHats
  • Specific type of hat (Mitres/sighats/etc)
  • No new Creed (They’re still hats)
  • Gems
  • Tusks
  • Horns
  • Deco
  • Zharr
  • Smiths
  • Something else (comment below)
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Esteemed Sorcerers, honored Despots, renowned Deamonsmiths, we gather here today to discuss an event most rare. Our great history has begun another chapter, and we must evolve with it.

First there were the Helms. With heads safe and without shame they laid waste with their wicked machinery hand-in-hand with Chaos. But they were alone in their Chaos Dwarfdom.

Then came the Hats. Ostentatious Hashut worshippers, they brought with them a fleshed out history and some of our must iconic designs. And two was stronger than one.

Finally came the Masks. Azgorh’s personal legion brought with it daemonsmithing and our shame-burdened elite. And a cord of three has not been easily broken.

Long have the 3 creeds worked together in our shared toil - collecting, converting, painting, playing. But today they are joined by a fourth Creed - that of the Helsmiths of Hashut. They further establish their dominance over the daemonic while establishing their orderly rule over all in their way. But how shall they be known? An evolution of Hats maybe, but still visually distinct. Their weapons are new, hats shorter, a visual focus on daemonic batteries, new faces and machines of war…

If the style of headware should continue to reign, how would you describe these? Shakos? Kalpaks? Mitres?

If not the headwear, what other style element could be used? Gems? Deco?

Give us your ideas! The only rule is it must be one word!

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This is a very important issue and will have long-term consequences.

After googeling a few of those things, Shakos are probably the best fit to the hats these guys are wearing. However, I’m guessing only a few people can readily associate it with something. It does not have the same ring to it as helmets, hats and masks. Yet the urge to continue naming them based on headware is very strong. Quite the pickle.

“Gems” could work. There are also quite a few bull-masks et al, maybe “Horns” could do as well? Problem is the default infantry guys do not have any horns or so, and the basic core trooper should maybe be the point of reference.

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Zharr may be an option.

This new range certainly incorporates hats and masks, a few helm’s on the hobbos maybe, so it’s hard to differentiate.

Helms/Hats/Masks/Zharr?

I know previous editions have had horns too but Helms/Hats/Masks/Horns also really works :smiley:

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“Tusks” might also work. They got big ones.

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I really like the Mitres idea, otherwise Shakos also works.

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I know @flagellant04 and I were discussing this last night but since I’ve found myself on the fence. These new models very much are “hats” just the modern interpretation of them. When one began collecting a modern 3D printed army we categorised it as helms /hat/mask and went from there regardless of how new the range was. I feel these are just an alternative “hat” option much like lost kingdom etc were

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I would have just said “classic hats” and “new hats” but neither of those are just one word. Maybe do it German style and merge all the words together to make a new one: Hammerheadhats

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Tusks is good! The fact they have hats, however small, does make it difficult to name so I’m kind of leaning towards other visual elements personally.

@Oxymandias that was my initial thought as well, but despite having hats these are as distinct a faction as any of the others. Putting these next to big hats would probably be more obvious than a big hat next to LoA, on a similar level of big hats next to helms. Of course a matching colour scheme may be enough to look like one army together on the table, but these could have a mirror match with any other creed and it not be clear they are even the same race imo!

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I feel like this is why mitres work really well. It is a big angular hat, of course real life religious mitres comes to mind.

Otherwise the “Hennin” also work in what it describes, however it is a woman attire, but these AoS dwarves really looks like they are having metalic military Hennin.

Sorry I’ve been digging throught old historical medieval hats … a journey of several hours on the internet.

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I feel like the hat classification thing will only serve to confuse!

Just call them Helsmiths

Hats/Helms/Masks/Helsmiths

People will know what it means

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It’s not a hat… it’s an Edifice. A Monument. An art deco Mausoleum.

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“Smiths” is punchier than “Helsmiths” and has a funny tie-in to the band. Less cheekily, I like “Deco” or even just “Sigmar.”

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I’m a bit torn on this, but I suppose there should be a distinction.
The Helsmiths clearly have hats, they are clearly inspired by the OG hat creed, and shakos, kalpaks & mitres are all hats!

But if you use creeds to specify what specific aesthetic you are collecting, “Hats” right now clearly mean the 4th(?) edition ones and the 3rd party ones replicating their look. That original aesthetic clearly =! Helsmiths, even if the Helsmiths are hat wearing Babylonian-esque bull-themed Hashut worshipers.

So if the creed is meant to represent the “generation” and not what style you prefer, I agree there should be a distinction.

I generally dislike the term “nu”, but my best suggestion right now is just Nu-Hats.
Even though it almost sounds like an insult towards the Helsmith range :sweat_smile:
I’m still gonna collect them though!

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How about “Rounds”…

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No please don’t make me publicly put my name next to AoS. I did it once, I was young and experimental. All the cool kids were doing it.

But I’m back in the old world even if I’m using sigmar toys to do it! Haha

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I like this - don’t see it as offensive. Also keeps it system agnostic and just speaks about the style.

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Neo-Hats for a fancier approach

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Helms - worship various chaos gods (but could use an unlucky demon as a slave -ass cannon)
Hats- start worshipping hashut and growing tusks
Masks- incorporating chaos demons into industrial machines
New-hats- using minced up demons as a sustainable biofuel for pretty much everything

Im sure someone with more knowledge could improve the description. I dont know much about the masks other than being punished for past crimes.

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I think I’d prefer “smith” at this point, but the “shepherd’s pie” of deamon description as fuel for everything is spot on :smiley:

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I’d go with horn hats.

Incidentally I’d say there are actually 5 creeds

Helms
Hats
Masks
Horn hats
A mix of the above, chaotic.

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