[Archive] Crown of Nagash?

Grimstonefire:

So looking at this model would you say the crown is the metal part or the whole hat? If it’s the metal part, it’s hard to picture sigmar wearing that as it looks like just part of the hat???

Thommy H:

“A wizard did it” (okay, technically a necromancer in this instance…).

cornixt:

Quite a few European crowns are really just hats with metals bits on them, even if recent fantasy seems to portray them as being a ring of metal with a few bits sticking up.

MadHatter:


I really would cut off that ridiculous looking big hat.



Without this upper thing it would look good and like a crown yes.
I also would cut off those stupid Alien like spinal tentacles on the back.


Herby
Castrating that hat and sending it back to Zharr-Naggrund sounds like a swell idea, also removing the tyranid parts...

I like to picture Sigmar wearing the whole hat :P ahhh yeah, 2014 designers... lmfao

Doombeard:

His head is so small, I don’t get why his hands are bigger than his head

Fuggit Khan:

I’m not sure why…but it reminds me of a 40k Necron for some reason…I’m not really liking it…

:frowning:

MadHatter:


Wait! And what's that?! A f.....g bone chin-beard?!!

The longer I look at the miniature the more I can't stand it.

And btw iamahobgoblin you're right. His head is too small.


Herby
I had not noticed.

Bone chin-beard... yep, utterly tasteless.

I said it when it arrived and I'll say i again, the old mini is better :mask

Yodrin:

Cant make up my mind if I like him or not. What I dont like is the tentacles on his back. The hat is… mehhh I dont know… and the bone beard is… mehhh. Maybe seeing it IRL it will be better…

I have the old one, and I actually like that one…

Bloodbeard:

The good old heavy metal chin beard. We all started out with something like that. Only a few strains of beard. Then for some it grew cool and long, orhers let it coer the entire face. I’ve tried all kind of beards, depending on the amount of metal pirate I want to be. Nothing tops a beard made of bone! That’s so extremely metal!

And absolutely completely stupid design. There’s so many things I dislike in the design of this miniature.

Skink:

Oh come on this model is not THAT bad. Besides, being Chaos Dwarf generals we ALL know how to do something with green stuff. Don’t like his hat? Chop it off and sculpt the Witch King crown with putty and plasticard. Don’t like his beard? Give him a regular one. Don’t like the wriggling spines on his back? Take them off and sculpt back banners, a cloak, a huge book of magic, add a weapon.

I for instance like the fact that he is borne aloft by a spirit host and that they are carrying his tomes of magic. His armor is well sculpted and his staff is a sweet fusion between VC and TK styles.

Admiral:

Oh come on this model is not THAT bad. Besides, being Chaos Dwarf generals we ALL know how to do something with green stuff. Don't like his hat? Chop it off and sculpt the Witch King crown with putty and plasticard. Don't like his beard? Give him a regular one. Don't like the wriggling spines on his back? Take them off and sculpt back banners, a cloak, a huge book of magic, add a weapon.

I for instance like the fact that he is borne aloft by a spirit host and that they are carrying his tomes of magic. His armor is well sculpted and his staff is a sweet fusion between VC and TK styles.

Skink
Agreed, view it as a great basis for conversions if particular bits don't suit your taste.

cornixt:

It’s lazy design. Undead in some way? Bones everywhere. Evil? Skulls everywhere.

Bitterman:

It's lazy design. Undead in some way? Bones everywhere. Evil? Skulls everywhere.

cornixt
Exactly this.

Never mind the bone chin-beard, what about the bone loin-cloth? Yep. I really just typed that. Despair.
Agreed, view it as a great basis for conversions if particular bits don't suit your taste.
£65 is a lot of money to ask for a lazily designed model which is, at best, the "basis for a conversion". How about if the model doesn't suit someone's taste, they should feel able to say so? They don't have to view it as a "great" anything. I know I don't.

Skink:

“lazily designed” it’s a bit steep. The miniature is full of amazing features, such as elaborate shoulder pads, the staff, the scar on his stomach (has he removed his organs?), the crowned heads on his belt (how many kings has this guy defeated?), chains and lockpics wrapping the books (forbidden powa!) with souls trying to escape their pages. And have you noticed the damn impressing flock of spirits floating around him and screaming in torment?
I like the fact that he has lots of intricate details but also tons of flat surfaces. Can you imagine a person like, say, Karol Rudyk painting his hanging rags/hat/sword?

Finally, It’s Nagash. The guy literally created the Undead. He’s wearing lots of bones, well, what were you expecting? It’s more or less like complaining that Warriors of Chaos are modeled with daemonic faces all over their armors.

EDIT: Maybe his colors aren’t chosen well. Try to imagine all the bones painted white and his skin painted a leathery dark brown or gray. Try to imagine his staff or sword painted in glowing colors. Details should pop out a little more this way.

Malorndk:

I’m all aboard the Skink train of reasoning on the Nagash model.

Fuggit Khan:

The miniature is full of amazing features, the scar on his stomach (has he removed his organs?), the crowned heads on his belt (how many kings has this guy defeated?),

EDIT: Maybe his colors aren't chosen well. Try to imagine all the bones painted white and his skin painted a leathery dark brown or gray. Try to imagine his staff or sword painted in glowing colors. Details should pop out a little more this way.

Skink
Hmmm...very good points that I had not noticed or thought about. The scar on the stomach is a nice touch, makes you wonder/think of the ancient Egyptian mummification process of removing the organs. That is a clever touch that I had overlooked.
And I think you're right Skink...this model would look better in a different choice of colors.
But I still think the Geiger Alien back protrusions gotta go, they just don't look right

snowblizz:

The scar on the stomach is a nice touch, makes you wonder/think of the ancient Egyptian mummification process of removing the organs.

Fuggit Khan
Seeing as Nagash would not have need any such that seems odd. He mummified others, did not need it himself.
Personally I'm thinking Fellblade wound.

Dînadan:

The scar on the stomach is a nice touch, makes you wonder/think of the ancient Egyptian mummification process of removing the organs.

Fuggit Khan
Seeing as Nagash would not have need any such that seems odd. He mummified others, did not need it himself.
Personally I'm thinking Fellblade wound.


snowblizz
Agreed. At first when Skink pointed out the wound I thought of mummification, then it thought, 'hang on, Nagash wasn't mummified'.

cornixt:

The composition I have no problem with. Except for the undead Dr Octopus arms.



Finally, It’s Nagash. The guy literally created the Undead. He’s wearing a lot of bones, well, what were you expecting?

Skink
He’s a twenty-foot tall skeleton. He doesn’t need anatomically incorrect spines and bones all over him - he should look like the richest Neherakan priest in skeletal form, not like a ghoul who only has body parts to work with. Why does being associated with the dead suddenly make you want to wear bone in the Warhammer world?

The paint job certainly doesn’t help. They painted a lot of it like bone when it really isn’t, or at least shouldn’t be.

Skink:

Why does being associated with the dead suddenly make you want to wear bone in the Warhammer world?

cornixt
Look at my example above. Why being associated with Daemons suddenly make you want to wear Daemonic faces in the Warhammer world?