Bill-117:
Any gods I forgot?
Malificant:
well, malal, but we wont get into that here…
depressurization of the worm can echos through the interweb…
Uzkul Werit:
Malaal was awesome but the idea it was slightly confusing. A Chaos God that represented hatred towards Chaos? brain cuts out
wallacer:
Any gods I forgot?Khaine, Sotek, Grungni, Gork, Mork, Verena, Morr, Taal, Rhya, Bogenhauer, Asuryan, Haendryk, Myrmidia, Ranald, Shallya, Stromfels, Manaan/Mathlann, Isha, Vaul, Adamnan-na-Brionha, Liadriel, Lileath, Kurnous, Morai-heg the Crone, Torothal, Ulric and possibly the Lady of the Lake.
Bill-117
Grimstonefire:
Grimnir, Grugni and Valaya.��Who I guess might represent honour, workmanship and protection?��Hard to sum them up in one word as they are only specific to Dwarfs.
Or if we want to go further
Gazul, Smednir, Thungni and Morgrim
(Stone and Steel)
EDIT
@Wallacer
Was Vaul a god?
Hammerhand:
Aren't Asuryan, Isha, Vaul, Lileath, Kurnous and Morai-heg from the Eldar of 40k? or are they shared with the elves (never had the High elf army book).Any gods I forgot?Khaine, Sotek, Grungni, Gork, Mork, Verena, Morr, Taal, Rhya, Bogenhauer, Asuryan, Haendryk, Myrmidia, Ranald, Shallya, Stromfels, Manaan/Mathlann, Isha, Vaul, Adamnan-na-Brionha, Liadriel, Lileath, Kurnous, Morai-heg the Crone, Torothal, Ulric and possibly the Lady of the Lake.
Bill-117
wallacer
I think it's more to do with religeon-civilisation.
Think of the pagans, who worshipped a god of everything that they needed luck for (war, farming fertility etc), then the vikings who had a kind of psudo-paganism, and worshiped gods of different aspects of war. The greeks had a very philisophical outlook on the world and their gods were reflectively philosophically based (goddess of love, god of thunder, etc).
What Hashut stands for would therefore (as the main god of the CDs) would be what CD society stands for.
I like Terry Pratchets Outlook on Gods (if anyone has read any of the quite frankly AWESOME discworld series) A god scratches about as a potential entity and gains power as more people believe in them. But people only believe in their experiences and this comes down to their way of life, which is why Elf gods are sophisticated and complicated, Dwarf Gods are straight up and grudgebearing and the Empire Gods (Sigmar, Morr, Ulric etc) are all hardy, fight-against-all-odds-tough-gods.
IMO, CDs don't consider themselves Chaos, and neither do most Chaos worshippers, but it is how they are perceived by the rest of the warhammer world.
wallacer:
It’s the old chicken and egg problem: Did the Gods create man or did man create the Gods?
(swap “man” for race of choice)
Hammerhand:
It's the old chicken and egg problem: Did the Gods create man or did man create the Gods?Chicken and egg is easy. Egg came first, laid by one species, mutated foetus spawned new species (chicken).
(swap "man" for race of choice)
wallacer
God and man. Hmmm. Spiritual (and probably contraversial).
wallacer:
But where did the first egg come from?
Hammerhand:
But where did the first egg come from?a species other than a chicken. That's why it was a mutated foetus.
wallacer
wallacer:
So where did the first member of the first species come from?
(the one that would eventually result in the aforementioned chicken)
minty:
So where did the first member of the first species come from?well, to begin with there was the big bang that caused a hole lot o hydrogen attomes to come into exisance with that amount of energy behid them, the heat and preeasure then mutated these into other atoms, wich reacted together to form dust, stars and planets, on these the left other atomes, still super charged with energy combined to make the first simple lifeforms, single celled organism, when these reproduced they started to mutate to, know to us as evolutiion into more complex beings, that then continued to eveolve into dinosaurs, which ruled until 64 million years ago, but there eggs would have been mutating the whole time, eventualy resulting, from the offspring of these mutated offspring the egg for what we call a chicken today
(the one that would eventually result in the aforementioned chicken)
wallacer
wallacer:
Alright, so what caused the big bang?
Malificant:
what caused the big bang was when tallhat lost his hat one day…scary day we never wish to encounter again. i beleive a simmilar episode of his wrath killed the dinosaurs and created krakatoa…
wallacer:
what caused the big bang was when tallhat lost his hat one dayAh, so Tallhat is God - the Unbegotten Source of all creation.
Malificant
I have to say i'm surprised, but I can't fault your logic.
Lumpy:
as a great fan of family guy I will have to answer the “what caused the big bang” with a resounding “GAAAAAAAAAWWD” (a hillbilly way of saying God over a long space of time)
But yes, Surely one could say that any race that uses the winds magic is in some way worshiping chaos, this is because magic to the best of my understanding was caused by the the great gate of the old ones collapsing and chaos being unleashed upon the world. 8 winds of magic and 8 points on the chaos star, Furthermore it is suggested in “manslayer” that through no fault of his own Lichtmann (main bad guy) began to mutate and then was forced into the service of chaos in order to survive this shows me that any who use the winds of magic have the taint of chaos and are suceptable to it.
I think the overwhelming conclusion on this matter is that Chaos dwarves do not consider themselves to worship Chaos, However they are clearly in possession of dubious morals and probally do in fact worship chaos in the sense that they serve chaos both indirectly (causing destruction to the forces of order, providing the means to cause destruction by trading with Ogres ect) and directly (creating hellcanons, using magic and channeling deamons) and worship simply translates as “to serve”.
To reflect this I think that chaos dwarves should be repesented as evil with subtle chaos undertones. Furthermore as far as chaos is concerned it would probally be chaos undivided that chaos dwaves can be said to serve.
gIL^:
Alright, so what caused the big bang?chuck norris, or possibly the old ones
wallacer
the old ones created a world as a haven , then left and created the lizardmen in their own image to act and guardians,
elves were the second race and the giant frog priests showed them magic and they fucked up and created chaos dueing the sunder, elves shows everyone else magic and then havok ensued. thus giving chaos all the magic it needed.
so if it wasnt the high elves chaos wouldnt exist tecniqually because they were the first race to show chaos like urges. plus warp stone didnt help
gIL^:
Alright, so what caused the big bang?chuck norris, or possibly the old ones
wallacer
the old ones created a world as a haven , then left and created the lizardmen in their own image to act and guardians,
elves were the second race and the giant frog priests showed them magic and they fucked up and created chaos dueing the sunder, elves shows everyone else magic and then havok ensued. thus giving chaos all the magic it needed.
so if it wasnt the high elves chaos wouldnt exist tecniqually because they were the first race to show chaos like urges. plus warp stone didnt help
gIL^
Bill-117:
Chaos Dwarves are Chaos because they are called Chaos Dwarves…
Seriously though, Hashut is supposedly a minor daemon, who ascended to godhood like Be’lakor did and Archaon tried to do.
Also, Chaos would exist with any sentient race. Anger, sloth, desire, hope, etc. Magic just made it multiply like Nurglish rabbits.
Malificant:
well, in actuality the big bang was caused when mr t took mother nature from behind