Hashut’s Blessing:
Eseentially, yes. Greater good being the “Hive”, the Ethereals being the Queens, Earth are workers/drones, Fire are soldiers and then Water are the breeders (essentially, they breed good relations? Lol 
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Gar Shadowfame:
and air?
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Vash:
well, they can all fly… so there’s no need for the air caste 
Fallen246:
in eldar codex in warlock description entry it is said that "(warlock) the most aggressive and warlike of all the Witch Paths.."Wait what? I'm not sure I follow here.
it is said that following Witch path for too long leads to being a Farseer, (as with the exarch) but i guys it only with "seers"
Also Warlock helmets are held in warrior shrines so Farseers do not teach warlocks
There are 2 other aspects of Witch Path i know of
Spiritseer-warlock level HQ that helps leading wriathguard and wraithlords
Bonesinger- eldar who shapes wraithbone with psychic energy
Gar Shadowfame
What you're saying is Warlock's, Spiritseers and Bonesingers are the same path (Witch) and Farseers are Warlocks who have been on the path too long (Like Exarch's), then therefore Farseers are advanced practitioners of the same path. But they are counted as following a different path?
So basically, a Farseer is indeed a Warlock Exarch, but rather than be called an Exarch, they are simply referred to as following the path of the Seer, and not the Witch path?
In regards to Farseers not teaching Warlocks, I have read in the older Eldar codexes that Farseers "Guide" Warlocks, but I suppose that's more like advice, not exactly teaching?
Gar Shadowfame:
no
absolutely no
Witch PathS, so more than one, like warrior paths (but there are different aspects, i am sure u wont claim that warp spiders teach firedragons) exacly as with warlocks and farseers,
farseers are advanced practitioners of the seer path not warlock path, which are an aspect of with paths.
Guide, farseers guide whole craftworld they lead, predict and manipulate, its just warlocks are best protection to venerable farseers thats all.
Fallen246:
noSo, what is a beginner on the Seer path? Are they all Farseers? I'm confused :S
absolutely no
Witch PathS, so more than one, like warrior paths (but there are different aspects, i am sure u wont claim that warp spiders teach firedragons) exacly as with warlocks and farseers,
farseers are advanced practitioners of the seer path not warlock path, which are an aspect of with paths.
Guide, farseers guide whole craftworld they lead, predict and manipulate, its just warlocks are best protection to venerable farseers thats all.
Gar Shadowfame
Gar Shadowfame:
seer, its just not included in the game as bonesingers
Thommy H:
Wait, so Bonesingers become Farseers? I don’t think that’s true…
Wikipedia sez:
Aspects are responsible for the defense of the Eldar, in the same way the Seers are responsible for leading them. Seers that are lost to the path forever become Farseers, similar to the way an Exarch attains his status by following the path of the warrior. Also, like the Exarch, they are very powerful, some of the most powerful psykers in the universe. A council of the most powerful Seers generally govern a Craftworld. Seers come in a wide variety with divination being the most common skill. Warlocks and Spirit Seers are two other types of Seers represented in Warhammer 40,000. Warlocks are Seers who follow the path of the Seer but have not been lost to it, and have previously traveled the path of the warrior. They use their powers to assist other Eldar in battle, shielding them from harm and attacking their enemies. Spirit Seers are Seers who specialise in communication with the dead; unsurprisingly, they are most prevalent within Iyanden and sometimes lead squads of Wraithguard in combat.Take it with a grain of salt since some dude just wrote it, but I’m guessing it’s probably as true as anything.
Wiki wiki wah
Link.
Gar Shadowfame:
i ment that seers and bone singers do not have game stats
remember that wiki is just wrote by some guy, in present fluff it it not said that warlocks are seers etc it is as i wrote earlier, “withc paths”
Thommy H:
Yeah, well you’re just some guy too. I don’t know, I’ve never owned an Eldar Codex, but it seems to me like Warlocks ought to be to Farseers what Aspect Warriors are to Exarchs. It just makes sense.
Gar Shadowfame:
i am some guy with the codex, and it seems wrong to you
Fallen246:
Yeah, well you're just some guy too. I don't know, I've never owned an Eldar Codex, but it seems to me like Warlocks ought to be to Farseers what Aspect Warriors are to Exarchs. It just makes sense.This statement is almost my exact take on the situation, but I own two of the previous edition Eldar codexes, and not the current one.
Thommy H
AGPO:
I’m in the same position as Fallen246 in that I own all the previous editions of Eldar rules and background but not the latest. The Wiki article seems to match all the fluff I’ve read, but it’s not unheard of for GW to retcon fluff. Warlocks were ‘warrior seers’ i.e. Eldar who had walked both the path of the seer and the path of the warrior.
As regards Gar’s multiple paths argument you’re both right and wrong. There is one ‘path’ in each case but many ways to walk it. For example, all Aspect Warriors walk the path of the warrior, but focusn a different aspect of Khaine dependant on th temple at which they study. These temples take their style from the Pheonix Lord who founded them who in turn were instructed by Asurman, the first Exarch and aspect warrior and founder of the Dire Avengers
Thommy H:
Yeah, I figure there’s a general Seer path, and Warlocks are walking the Warlock version of it - which is to say, warrior psychics (because they used to walk the Warrior path). Farseers are like Exarchs, in that they’re stuck on the Seer path, but they can also emphasise different aspects like Exarchs. So you could have a Warlock that got stuck, and he’d be a Farseer too, but a more militant one.
But maybe that’s not how it is after all.
Gar Shadowfame:
ok guys i know that you might think what is what, but i have new eldar codex and it clearly says “witch Paths”, now you have nothing else to get ur knowledge other than wiki (and wiki can be wrote by anyone including me and i can write there that eldar are subtype of pink fairies) yet you say that i am not precise when i almost quote codex. Belive what u like i only answered question as precise as i could.
how d u expect a warlock which does different stuff than seer, ( so he fight mentaly and physicaly) suddenly learns how to perceive possibilities and travel through infinity circuit? because he got fixated on his path which involves destroing souls of eldar enemies vial witchblade?
Fallen246:
Got my brother to check the Eldar Codex, as he has the latest but lives away from me, and they read as follows (what I think are important parts I have bolded):
Farseer (first paragraph):
"The Path of the Seer is the most dangerous and convoluted path of all, for psykers are intimately connected with Warp space. To proceed too quickly along the Witch Path would be to invite the most heinous damnation, as the minions of the Great Enemy lurk within the Warp ready to rend the souls of overambitious Seers. Furthermore, the Witch Path itself can entrap an adherant for the rest of his life. Just as Eldar who are trapped on the Warrior Path become Exarchs, so Seers who progress too far along the Witch Path become Farseers."
Warlock (first paragraph):
"The most aggressive and warlike of all the Witch Paths is that of the Warlock. Warlocks are Seers who once trod the Path of the Warrior, and it is their previous experience as warriors that enables them to harness their destructive impulses in battle. The Ornate helmets worn by Warlocks are kept in the shrines of the Warrior Aspects. A Warlock can only become his warrior-seer self by returning to a shrine and receiving his helmet from an Exarch as part of the blood ritual of the Aspect Warrior."
So, with all that typed up, that concludes that both Farseers and Warlocks do indeed walk the same path, although Warlocks are those who have walked the path of the warrior before walking the path of the Seer/Witch Path, and that Farseers are those ‘trapped’ upon the Path of the Seer/Witch Patch who have become the equivalent of Exarchs.
However, to support my previous belief, there is nothing that says a Warlock cannot become ‘trapped’ on the Path of the Seer/Witch Path and become a Farseer.
Gar Shadowfame:
in first quotation “the witch path” adhers to “the witch path of the seer” in second quotation it says “witch paths” suggesting there is more than 1 actual specialty
page 9 and 10 of the present codex explain that “major” paths have aspects, suggesting warrior path as an example.
Similar thing happens to witch paths, u have seer, warlock,
i asume you wont say that a warp spider who becomes fixated on “warrior path” can suddenly become dire avenger exarch
Fallen246:
in first quotation "the witch path" adhers to "the witch path of the seer" in second quotation it says "witch paths" suggesting there is more than 1 actual specialtyNo, I', not saying a Warp Spider can become a Dire Avenger Exarch, but he could become an Exarch.
page 9 and 10 of the present codex explain that "major" paths have aspects, suggesting warrior path as an example.
Similar thing happens to witch paths, u have seer, warlock,
i asume you wont say that a warp spider who becomes fixated on "warrior path" can suddenly become dire avenger exarch
Gar Shadowfame
Some who is lost on the path of the warrior becomes an Exarch. As in Exarch is the suffix to the path name that they have mastered.
A Farseer is someone who is lost on the Witch Path/Path of the Seer. So regardless of the Witch Path they follow, they are still called Farseers. The only difference is that the Witch Path(s) don't use Farseer as a suffix, they use it as the entire title.
Gar Shadowfame:
farseers specialise in precognition its the name of seer exarchs, and only them, codex doesnt suggest it is applied to warlocks or anyone else, it is namely for seers who cant turn back.
name for warlock “exarch” would be “one that lost the path” as codex suggests.
also i myself doubt a warlock can become exarch since he mastered another path before, but thats just a theory
Hashut’s Blessing:
Gar: It seems like you’re feeling really defencive about this. You’re not wholly wrong,b ut there have been quotations proving what people are saying, yet you’re still refusing to accept it.
I hope that you don’t take this personally, but it’s quite clear that Warlock and Farseers are both on the Witch Path (akin to the Warrior Path) and Warlocks used to be warriors, Farseers are stuck on the path in the same way as Exarchs are for warriors. The Path of the Seer seems to be me to be aspect of the Witch Path, in the same way as Striking Scorpions or Howling Banshees are Aspect Warriors (or aspects of the Warrior Path). Ultimately, there is no reason as to why a Warlock, who is a psyker that was previously on the path of the warrior, but changed (as a Scorpion can change to a Banshee), can’t become a Farseer by getting stuck on the Witch Path.
If the problem is that Warlocks are attacky and Farseers are precognitive, think of it as Farseers are precognitive because they’ve got so used to, but Warlock ones are also adept at applying that to combat-based uses (such as things like foretelling incoming attacks by seeing movements and then realising the stratagems). Farseer is a seer exarch, Warlock is a warrior seer, so why can there not be a warrior seer exarch?